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To: Olog-hai; nickcarraway

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. — Matthew 16:25
Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. — Luke 17:33

Spirited: My thoughts often meditate on the meaning of those particular verses, especially with regard to these times.

As for the preppers, it seems to me that only with hardened hearts can they feed themselves while all around them are those who are starving. Additionally, even if they manage to hold off marauding “zombies” as they call them, their fortresses will collapse under the fire-power of opportunistic invasive forces such as the Mexican or even the Chinese army.

Just my thoughts for what they are worth.


9 posted on 04/29/2012 2:03:55 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish
As for the preppers, it seems to me that only with hardened hearts can they feed themselves while all around them are those who are starving. Additionally, even if they manage to hold off marauding “zombies” as they call them, their fortresses will collapse under the fire-power of opportunistic invasive forces such as the Mexican or even the Chinese army.

Yes, you're right: It's much better to be unprepared.

It's better to go thirsty, or even watch your loved ones slowly die of dehydration (or dysentery after drinking contaminated water) than to store potable drinking water.

And in the event of an "opportunistic" invasion, your chances of survival are much better if you have no plan, no buddy network, no shelter, no weapons cache, and no supplies.

Regards,

10 posted on 04/29/2012 2:56:07 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: spirited irish; alexander_busek

“...their fortresses will collapse under the fire-power of opportunistic invasive forces such as the Mexican or even the Chinese army”

You making a precise predication as to what’s ahead. Maybe, maybe not. Neither Argentina nor Russia, which both had currency collapses, had any external attack to deal with. Sure, it may be different in our case, but maybe not...

And if we follow Argentina’s or Russia’s path, it sure would be nice to have things like paper towels around and a way to purify water, rather than having to hope the truck comes and not having any other option.


14 posted on 04/29/2012 3:32:36 AM PDT by BobL
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To: spirited irish
As for the preppers, it seems to me that only with hardened hearts can they feed themselves while all around them are those who are starving.

Those that feed themselves won't be a logistics burden on an emergency system that may be stressed trying to feed those starving.

So non-preppers are the hard-hearted, selfish ones, taking food that could be used by the needy. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

/johnny

15 posted on 04/29/2012 3:49:06 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: spirited irish
Just one small problem with your philosophy.

If everyone decided to be like you and make no preparations and just scrounge off those that did, who are they going to scrounge off of?

39 posted on 04/29/2012 6:29:27 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: spirited irish
As for the preppers, it seems to me that only with hardened hearts can they feed themselves while all around them are those who are starving.

Thanks for the tip on the "hardened heart" .. I'll start working on that next week as part of my preparations.

It's easy to find excuses not to prepare (aka "due diligence"). Is your home also not insured against fire?

58 posted on 04/29/2012 9:38:28 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: spirited irish

“As for the preppers, it seems to me that only with hardened hearts can they feed themselves while all around them are those who are starving.”

One has but a limited number of cheeks to turn, you know.

Ask yourself what the Urban Ferals would not take from you, if society breaks down even just long enough to give the Ferals a chance? Now ask yourself what they would not do to you and yours if they did not fear the police?


63 posted on 04/29/2012 10:18:46 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: spirited irish

“Just my thoughts for what they are worth.”

Your thoughts have no value to others except to inform that in a long term emergency with no water/food, you will die.


66 posted on 04/29/2012 10:53:19 AM PDT by Marcella (Romney: for Abortion, homosexuality, same sex marriage - No to Romney)
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To: spirited irish

It is the fact that , while you could conceivably feed one beggar in Spain, if you tried to feed them all, you would soon be a beggar, yourself. And if you became known as someone who was feeding beggars, you would soon be overrun with them.


82 posted on 04/29/2012 2:58:49 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: spirited irish
As for the preppers, it seems to me that only with hardened hearts can they feed themselves while all around them are those who are starving.

On a national scale, it is this kind of daffy, feel-good thinking that has led to the impending bankruptcy of the nation.

Sometimes adults have to be able to make rational, informed judgements and distinguish between want and need, between what feels good and what is sensible and sustainable, between eating your feed corn or not.


83 posted on 04/29/2012 3:29:40 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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