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1 posted on 04/23/2012 4:47:13 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Did Muhammad exist?

Yes, I saw him in a Dutch cartoon depiction for a gutter religious cult.

2 posted on 04/23/2012 4:50:54 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: SJackson
“The full truth of whether a prophet named Muhammad lived in seventh-century Arabia,” Spencer concludes, “and if he did, what sort of a man he was, may never be known."

Speaking from his hidden bunker at an undisclosed and heavily secured location, I hope.

3 posted on 04/23/2012 4:58:25 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: SJackson

Robert Spencer is a great man. The muzzies absolutely hate him and his friend, Hugh Fitzgerald, also an editorial contributor to www.jihadwatch.org .
Never heard of Hugh Fitzgerald? Maybe you know him by his former name? The name he had before he renounced Islam and became a Catholic. Hugh used to be a popular movie star named Omar Sharif.


5 posted on 04/23/2012 5:00:35 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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6 posted on 04/23/2012 5:13:12 AM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, M Obama)
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To: SJackson

save for later


7 posted on 04/23/2012 5:14:04 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: SJackson

As recently as the 1950s the religion was referred to in history classes in my state as “Mohammedanism” and it was taught that Mohammed became a Christian and brought Christianity to the Arabs but they corrupted his teachings and placed Mohammed himself above Jesus.

That and five dollars will get you a cup of coffee but that is the way it was in my youth.


9 posted on 04/23/2012 5:18:43 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: SJackson

Islam is a para-military cult disguised as a religion.


15 posted on 04/23/2012 5:38:54 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: SJackson

Not this stupidity again!

I’m disappointed in Spencer, as I’ve admired his past work.

Look, the Arabs had been a peripheral despised people for literally millenia.

Suddenly, around 600, they turned into a dynamic revolutionary force, conquering much of the known world. Such things do not happen without something causing them to happen.

If Mohammed never existed, I’ll be interested in Spencer’s explanation of what caused the sudden change in Arab character. It is also interesting that after the century of initial Muslim Arab conquest the Arabs returned to their somnolence. Almost none of the great Muslim figures since have been Arab by birth or culture.

Turkish, Berber, Persian, Kurdish, Mongol, etc., yes. But not Arab.

So why were Arab different during that century?

I’s also like to point out others have made similar arguments about the actual existence of Jesus Christ.


18 posted on 04/23/2012 5:47:03 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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“Oh, boy. This is gonna be great!” ping....


20 posted on 04/23/2012 5:53:25 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: SJackson

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21 posted on 04/23/2012 5:56:27 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: SJackson
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I'll say more later.

24 posted on 04/23/2012 6:23:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Allah FUBAR.)
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I'll say more later, Inshallah.

25 posted on 04/23/2012 6:24:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Allah FUBAR.)
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To: SJackson

Should be an interesting book.


26 posted on 04/23/2012 6:46:50 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: SJackson
Did Muhammad Exist?

No. Next question.

28 posted on 04/23/2012 6:52:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: SJackson

Does Satan exist, does evil exist?


34 posted on 04/23/2012 8:27:11 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: SJackson

But I’ve seen in various Jewish history books the translation of a letter from various rabbis in Medina to Muhammed in effect rejecting him as a prophet, but expressing gratification that he has become a believer in the existence of one supreme G-d. If they wrote him a letter, then he must have existed. Apparently, the letter really p@#$ed him off.


44 posted on 04/23/2012 11:28:11 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: SJackson; nuconvert; Dajjal; TigerLikesRooster; SunkenCiv

I guess that Spencer is using research done by Sven Kalisch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sven_Kalisch that formerly was a Muslim scholar, and since that is impossible be skipped the muslim part:

Doubt about Muhammad’s Existence Poses Threat to Islamic Religious Education 18 sept 2008

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2088564/posts


51 posted on 04/26/2012 4:52:51 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: SJackson; Cronos; cradle of freedom; Eleutheria5

It doesn’t matter if Mo existed or not.
The fact that over a billion moslems believe he did is the point.
Trying to disprove that Mo existed to moslems is akin to trying to put out fire with gasoline.
Besides, Mo’s (alleged) disciple “Umar” did exist. We know that from historical accounts of Iran’s invasion by bedo Arabs. “Umar” is/was said to be one of Mo’s immediate disciples, but when Umar & his army attacked Iran, Mo wasn’t in the picture (he had already died, several yrs earlier).
By all accounts, Mo or his disciples were bedo Arabs and were illiterate.
As for the Quran, it has been rewritten several times, since Mo & Umar’s time, over the centuries. It couldn’t have been originally written by Mohamad.
Plus the Quran is a mish mash of preceding ‘holy’ books. IMO, that’s why in parts it is disjointed, fragmented, and just doesn’t make sense.
The original Arabic version was written in Egyptian arabic, I read somewhere a while ago - this was written a couple of centuries, I think, after Mo’s death (anyhow it was definitely written *after* Mo’s death).
The Saudi only accept the version written in Saudi arabic as the “official” one. Then again, the Saudi Royal family are the “official” custodians of the “holy” cities of Mecca & Medina. And, Saudi Arabia is the birthplace of Mo... well, allegedly.
But, I do believe Mohamad did exist & declared himself a “prophet”, once upon a time.


66 posted on 04/27/2012 6:21:42 PM PDT by odds
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To: SJackson

Robert Spencer interview on Janet Mefford (Christian) radio show.

INCREDIBLE! States at end “Mo” never existed.

http://www.janetmefferdpremium.com/2012/04/25/janet-mefferd-radio-show-20120425-hr-3/


97 posted on 04/29/2012 1:23:37 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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