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To: DanZ; kabar
I've said it once this morning on another thread and I'll say it again:

If we cannot wrestle control from the RINOs within our own party, then how will we ever win a national election from a 3rd party?

The ONLY way to win is to persuade a majority of voting Americans that we're right and the democrats and RINOs are wrong. Other than that, Kabar is correct. We will, all Americans, lose.

Some say we can repeat what the Republicans did in 1854-1860 to the Whigs, but in reality the Whigs were on their way out because they were old fashioned philosophers of government rather than extreme party loyalists and demagogues that the democrats had made themselves under Jackson. We needed a similar party to counter them and most folks switched to the Republicans due to the war and firebrand Southern democrats preaching our way or the highway. After the war, with so many war veterans, and having their head of the party assassinated, the party had a lock on people's loyalty for a generation.

People should study the Whigs before they characterize them as 19th Century RINOs. They weren't! They held to the governing principles of Washington and the other founding fathers, and were simply couldn't respond well to democrat lies and demagoguery.

135 posted on 04/22/2012 11:00:55 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
If we cannot wrestle control from the RINOs within our own party, then how will we ever win a national election from a 3rd party?

I understand this belief. BUT what I cannot grasp is that it is perfectly acceptable for Lieberman to be kicked out of the RAT party, run as an Ind - Bernie Sanders who is an avowed Socialist - both NOT RATS but 3rd party types - and yet they caucus with the RAT party and count towards who is in control of the Senate. WHY CAN'T TEA PARTY TYPES RUN AS A THRID PARTY FOR THE SENATE AND HOUSE AND PLEDGE TO CAUCUS WITH THE RINO PARTY?

Conservatives have to start somewhere since it is apparent the GOP is in firm control by the RINO elite. Look at what happened in the House with 85 new Freshman and how the Continuing Resolution and Debt Ceiling were handled.
153 posted on 04/22/2012 12:47:52 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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