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To: Alas Babylon!
If we cannot wrestle control from the RINOs within our own party, then how will we ever win a national election from a 3rd party?

I understand this belief. BUT what I cannot grasp is that it is perfectly acceptable for Lieberman to be kicked out of the RAT party, run as an Ind - Bernie Sanders who is an avowed Socialist - both NOT RATS but 3rd party types - and yet they caucus with the RAT party and count towards who is in control of the Senate. WHY CAN'T TEA PARTY TYPES RUN AS A THRID PARTY FOR THE SENATE AND HOUSE AND PLEDGE TO CAUCUS WITH THE RINO PARTY?

Conservatives have to start somewhere since it is apparent the GOP is in firm control by the RINO elite. Look at what happened in the House with 85 new Freshman and how the Continuing Resolution and Debt Ceiling were handled.
153 posted on 04/22/2012 12:47:52 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

It somewhat depends on the state. The last GOP senator from VT was jumpin’ Jim Jeffords who’s ACU rating of about 20 made Snowe and Spector seem conservative by comparison. A Rat can run there as an honest socialist without the slightest concern a true conservative would sneak through in a three way race. CT’s electorate isn’t quite as lopsided; without the edge of incumbency Lieberman wouldn’t have pulled off the D to I switch. Tea Party types might be able to do this in a sufficiently red state. A narrow Hatch win in Utah’s primary could trigger such if the state weren’t so Mormon; a third party challenge there seems too radical for them.


154 posted on 04/22/2012 1:10:09 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Cheerio
Conservatives have to start somewhere

The old saying is that the longest trip in the world begins with one step. Another old saying is if you start by saying it CAN'T be done, than nothing else matters. With that beginning, it WON'T be done, and that's a fact.

Which is not to say, let say as mine dog-eating President does alldatime....let me make one thing perfectly clear....I am NOT, at this time, advocating a third party.

My belief, and I sit here making my case only and if your mileage varies I respect that, is that the people who carry this country on their backs, Tea Party types I assert, simply will not accept a Romney governing like a mealy-mouthed moderate and without a lot of fuss and argument, a new party will spring from the electorate, this perhaps somewhere in the mid of Romney's term when the pressure of electing a communist and his thugs isn't so pressing.

Maybe it will be a matter of getting more Tea Party types in the House and heaven forbid that House of Lords called the Senate. Maybe it will be by electing Tea Party types to town councils across America, much like my guy and the likes of me struggling to guide him and to deal with campaign laws but by golly I CAN READ!

I saw Sussex county Delaware's GOP transformed into a work of beauty. We had to rent a bigger hall to accomodate those who were inspired and came out to run, change the rules, vote fair and square.

The people so desperately wanted something to believe in, to think that maybe, just maybe, WE THE PEOPLE really have the power.

The Blue Bloods, they have all the money, all the contacts, they even have the Media on their side via a liberal media here in Delaware that joins in on the mockery of the COD voters. They had secret side meetings, they ejected one of our favorite sons, they got Democrat Pete Schwartzkopf to publicly lambaste those who listen to talk radio, fools all. Do not tell me the Blue Blood elected GOP weren't on to this....it's local but very similar to national.

I'd argue it's not quitting to reject it outright. Us tar and pitchfork boobs, all we have are our numbers. Somehow we need to take our numbers away from them. A lackluster, middle of the road Romney presidency will make that a simple thing.

So I don't know how it's going to come down but....let me make one thing perfectly clear....I hope with all my heart, I pray with all my heart, that a President Romney somehow finds a leadership within him to wrest our ship of state back onto a straight course.

What's a "straight course" you ask? Too long for me to define but it's like that supreme court justice and the definition of pornography....I'll know it when I see it.

155 posted on 04/22/2012 1:52:33 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Cheerio
WHY CAN'T TEA PARTY TYPES RUN AS A THRID PARTY FOR THE SENATE AND HOUSE AND PLEDGE TO CAUCUS WITH THE RINO PARTY?

Because the majority party gets to appoint committee chairs?

166 posted on 04/22/2012 4:13:36 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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