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Your assertion is inaccurate. I haven’t justified anything. Don’t start down the logical fallacy path your friend did. I’ve stated over a dozen times that what this guy did was wrong. I just don’t think it warrants 12 felony charges and 60 years in prison. I don’t think people are looking at the case rationally. To me, people ranting and raving and gnashing their teeth about this guy in their posts reeks of mob mentality and street justice. I find that offensive and dangerous because it’s that very mentality which the left uses to strip our liberties and damage our education, justice system and government; all the things you complain about. Zero tolerance laws are a good example of how mob mentality allowed law makers to justify stripping people of their individuality and over-criminalize everything. The next time some kid gets arrested for bringing a butter knife to school for their bagel…I’ll send them to you to convict them in the court of street justice and mobocracy.

I agree with what Frenetic has posted, here.

However, somewhere along the way, it became a pissing match. I believe Frenetic brought some (most) of it on himself by miminizing the seriousness of the actual event, of which I quoted, when I posted #142: "Keep in mind that the weapon was a fake. Nobody was injured."

That was an assinine comment.

I agree that this crime is not 12-felony, 60-year serious. But this is a serious crime and is definitely a one-felony, 10-year crime.

In short, I'm not sure Frenetic is a troll (although I withhold a conclusion here, and will observe him), but that he messed up.

I also have a hard time believing he is a teacher. Well, a good one, anyways.

I agree that this crime is not 12-felony, 60-year serious. But this is a serious crime and is definitely a one-felony, 10-year crime.

I haven't made any comment so far on the charges or the potential sentence in this case, or what I think would be appropriate, but it should be noted that it is common to overcharge in an indictment and unusual for maximum sentences to be handed down. It would probably be unusual if he ended up convicted of all charges and then sentenced to the maximum.

As for the "pissing match" I tried to bring the discussion back to the topic and back to civility quite a few times and failed to get any movement in that direction at all. You won't get a reasonable response to your questions or even one that touches on the substance but I'll wish you luck in that effort anyway.