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| April 19, 2012
| Jim Robinson
Posted on 04/19/2012 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
I've checked with an ad agency. We can probably raise the funds we need to operate FR at our current level and at the current market price for online advertising if we run a banner ad at the top of every page and at least one rectangular ad in the above the fold body of the page and a couple rectangular ads in the sidebar. If that doesn't generate enough revenue, we can also run pop ups or pop unders and we can even run audio and video ads if need be. But of course, if we go full bore commercial, we'd have to insure strict copyright compliance with very brief excerpting of all articles to avoid lawsuits. And the agency would require that we install a filter to censor out any bad or unacceptable words in our posts.
Or, of course, there's always the membership model. We could setup a members only system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc.
I don't like either of the above models and think we'd soon lose a lot of our readers and participants. Of course that may happen anyway if we can't fund it and if we cannot get our equipment problem under control, or if my refusal to vote for or support an abortionist/homosexualist/statist who has plans to install ObamaCare, er, I mean RomneyCare into all 50 states runs everyone off.
The donation model has served us very well since 1997 when we first started using it. It's very clean, uncomplicated and we attract participants who perhaps can't afford membership dues but do want to join the discussion and join our rallies, protests, prayer sessions, etc. And the advertising model would probably bring in the revenue, but it comes with strings attached.
I'm sure there are other ways and ways to combine features of various models, sell books, cds, gear, etc, offer no ads for paid subscribers, etc, even ISP services, but all of these also complicate matters.
I'm an old dog and I like to avoid new tricks, new complications, additional overhead, additional accounting, additional rules and regulations, etc, wherever possible. I like to stick to simplicity and with what works.
Thank you all very much for your continuing participation and support.
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To: onyx
I figured if you pay thru Paypal....it's a percentage.
I know Paypal...takes a % of every payment I receive thru them.
That said....I understand there's other cost's to receiving monies.
Okay...let's encourage all FReeper's to give at least $5 a month...!!!
Thanks-
61
posted on
04/19/2012 2:39:05 PM PDT
by
Osage Orange
(The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
To: Jim Robinson
I say we mandate that every citizen views FR at least once a day. If they don’t, they must pay a penalty to keep the servers running for the rest of us.
62
posted on
04/19/2012 2:40:17 PM PDT
by
JediJones
(From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
To: Jim Robinson; All
I donate $10 per month and occasionally pony more during Freepathons.
Didn’t know about the $2 per month it costs. Here’s another $50 to cover some of what FR has been charged for processing.
I love Jim, John, and Free Republic!
63
posted on
04/19/2012 2:40:27 PM PDT
by
FrogMom
(There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
To: Brad's Gramma
Only $1 buck per year per reader if every one of our users did it religiously. Or $1 buck per month if only 10% of our registered members did it reliably.
64
posted on
04/19/2012 2:41:20 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(There's no crying in rebellion!!)
To: JediJones
JediJones for President!!
65
posted on
04/19/2012 2:43:21 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(There's no crying in rebellion!!)
To: Mad Dawgg
An FR book...that’s a really good idea.
66
posted on
04/19/2012 2:43:38 PM PDT
by
Future Snake Eater
(If we had a President, he'd look like Newt.)
To: Tribune7
If you want to save this site, what I'd suggest is you do a mea culpa and invite the Romney people back. Save this site??????
67
posted on
04/19/2012 2:43:49 PM PDT
by
Osage Orange
(The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
To: Mad Dawgg; Jim Robinson
Write a Book on the History of Free Republic. Talk to Jeff and Matt/Travis about how to format it and get it on Kindle. I know a large number of Freepers would buy it and I bet you would get a lot of sales outside of Freeperdom also.Best idea yet.
Chapter on the Dan Rather lie, chapter on FR lingo...endless opportunities for subject matter!
I know we have at least a couple of published authors here.
68
posted on
04/19/2012 2:48:42 PM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(I do not expect the (FR) house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided-Jim Robinson)
To: FReepers
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2012 Q2 Scoreboard — ranked by total receipts |
|
Rank |
Location |
Receipts |
Monthlies |
Total |
# |
Avg/Per |
Total |
# |
Avg/Per |
1 |
California |
$2,692.00 |
74 |
$36.38 |
$1,159.00 |
79 |
$14.67 |
2 |
Texas |
1,859.00 |
54 |
34.43 |
976.50 |
63 |
15.50 |
3 |
Florida |
1,080.00 |
34 |
31.76 |
665.00 |
44 |
15.11 |
4 |
Ohio |
943.00 |
25 |
37.72 |
305.00 |
26 |
11.73 |
5 |
Georgia |
736.00 |
11 |
66.91 |
255.00 |
18 |
14.17 |
6 |
Virginia |
701.00 |
17 |
41.24 |
477.00 |
27 |
17.67 |
7 |
Pennsylvania |
652.50 |
25 |
26.10 |
260.00 |
17 |
15.29 |
8 |
Alabama |
605.00 |
18 |
33.61 |
320.00 |
17 |
18.82 |
9 |
New York |
565.00 |
24 |
23.54 |
345.00 |
24 |
14.38 |
10 |
Australia |
510.00 |
2 |
255.00 |
10.00 |
1 |
10.00 |
11 |
Arizona |
480.00 |
17 |
28.24 |
325.00 |
19 |
17.11 |
12 |
Missouri |
455.00 |
16 |
28.44 |
175.00 |
11 |
15.91 |
13 |
Alaska |
450.00 |
3 |
150.00 |
60.00 |
3 |
20.00 |
14 |
North Carolina |
425.00 |
21 |
20.24 |
305.00 |
21 |
14.52 |
15 |
Maryland |
422.50 |
16 |
26.41 |
352.50 |
22 |
16.02 |
16 |
Colorado |
405.00 |
17 |
23.82 |
275.00 |
17 |
16.18 |
17 |
Connecticut |
387.51 |
11 |
35.23 |
80.00 |
5 |
16.00 |
18 |
Illinois |
378.00 |
18 |
21.00 |
226.00 |
13 |
17.38 |
19 |
Louisiana |
365.00 |
5 |
73.00 |
183.00 |
10 |
18.30 |
20 |
Washington |
340.00 |
11 |
30.91 |
340.00 |
18 |
18.89 |
21 |
Michigan |
286.67 |
14 |
20.48 |
281.67 |
17 |
16.57 |
22 |
New Jersey |
270.00 |
9 |
30.00 |
128.33 |
7 |
18.33 |
23 |
Mississippi |
239.00 |
10 |
23.90 |
164.00 |
9 |
18.22 |
24 |
Oklahoma |
225.00 |
9 |
25.00 |
250.00 |
15 |
16.67 |
25 |
Wisconsin |
225.00 |
9 |
25.00 |
182.00 |
11 |
16.55 |
26 |
Minnesota |
220.00 |
11 |
20.00 |
205.00 |
15 |
13.67 |
27 |
South Carolina |
210.00 |
8 |
26.25 |
85.00 |
7 |
12.14 |
28 |
Oregon |
190.00 |
8 |
23.75 |
180.00 |
10 |
18.00 |
29 |
Indiana |
190.00 |
8 |
23.75 |
205.00 |
16 |
12.81 |
30 |
Massachusetts |
180.00 |
6 |
30.00 |
255.00 |
16 |
15.94 |
31 |
Tennessee |
155.00 |
10 |
15.50 |
155.00 |
13 |
11.92 |
32 |
Arkansas |
145.00 |
4 |
36.25 |
85.00 |
7 |
12.14 |
33 |
Montana |
135.00 |
5 |
27.00 |
60.00 |
3 |
20.00 |
34 |
Idaho |
125.00 |
6 |
20.83 |
120.00 |
5 |
24.00 |
35 |
Kentucky |
115.00 |
4 |
28.75 |
40.00 |
3 |
13.33 |
36 |
Hawaii |
105.00 |
5 |
21.00 |
85.00 |
5 |
17.00 |
37 |
North Dakota |
100.00 |
1 |
100.00 |
30.00 |
1 |
30.00 |
38 |
Kansas |
90.00 |
7 |
12.86 |
95.00 |
10 |
9.50 |
39 |
New Mexico |
85.00 |
5 |
17.00 |
50.00 |
4 |
12.50 |
40 |
Vermont |
70.00 |
2 |
35.00 |
50.00 |
1 |
50.00 |
41 |
South Dakota |
60.00 |
4 |
15.00 |
85.00 |
6 |
14.17 |
42 |
United Kingdom |
60.00 |
3 |
20.00 |
30.00 |
1 |
30.00 |
43 |
Nevada |
60.00 |
4 |
15.00 |
55.00 |
5 |
11.00 |
44 |
Canada |
50.00 |
3 |
16.67 |
20.00 |
3 |
6.67 |
45 |
Iowa |
40.00 |
2 |
20.00 |
40.00 |
2 |
20.00 |
46 |
Delaware |
36.00 |
3 |
12.00 |
16.00 |
2 |
8.00 |
47 |
West Virginia |
35.00 |
2 |
17.50 |
50.00 |
2 |
25.00 |
48 |
Puerto Rico |
25.00 |
1 |
25.00 |
|
|
|
49 |
Nebraska |
20.00 |
2 |
10.00 |
65.00 |
5 |
13.00 |
50 |
Rhode Island |
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
30.00 |
1 |
30.00 |
51 |
Germany |
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
|
|
|
52 |
Utah |
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
100.00 |
3 |
33.33 |
53 |
Wyoming |
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
10.00 |
1 |
10.00 |
54 |
France |
12.00 |
2 |
6.00 |
|
|
|
55 |
District of Columbia |
10.00 |
1 |
10.00 |
10.00 |
1 |
10.00 |
56 |
Maine |
7.00 |
1 |
7.00 |
27.00 |
2 |
13.50 |
57 |
Armed Forces - Pacific |
5.00 |
1 |
5.00 |
5.00 |
1 |
5.00 |
58 |
Bulgaria |
5.00 |
1 |
5.00 |
|
|
|
|
New Hampshire |
|
|
|
108.50 |
5 |
21.70 |
|
Norway |
|
|
|
20.00 |
1 |
20.00 |
Never Never Land |
843.00 |
29 |
29.07 |
1,113.00 |
91 |
12.23 |
61 locations total |
$19,160.18 |
623 |
$30.75 |
$11,584.50 |
762 |
$15.20 |
|
69
posted on
04/19/2012 2:51:00 PM PDT
by
onyx
(SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
To: Jim Robinson
Something funny about banner ads, I was on a conservative-oriented news site the other day that was displaying liberal banner ads, “Recall Scott Walker” and the like. Hopefully FR could put a filter on those.
70
posted on
04/19/2012 2:51:06 PM PDT
by
JediJones
(From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
To: Jim Robinson
Could you maybe set up affiliate-style links like to Amazon books/products so maybe you wouldn’t have to deal with an ad agency?
71
posted on
04/19/2012 2:53:54 PM PDT
by
JediJones
(From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
To: FrogMom
Thank you very much, FrogMom!!
72
posted on
04/19/2012 2:54:06 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(There's no crying in rebellion!!)
To: Eepsy; John Robinson
"Just about 95% of the time Im reading Freerepublic, its on my cellphone. Is there any way to set up donations by text message? Its a lot simpler than having to dig out your credit card." That's a question for John.
73
posted on
04/19/2012 2:56:29 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(There's no crying in rebellion!!)
To: Jim Robinson; FReepers
Thank You Jim Robinson Thank You Donors
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74
posted on
04/19/2012 2:57:15 PM PDT
by
MEG33
(O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
To: Jim Robinson
Most welcome!
Anyone else?
75
posted on
04/19/2012 2:58:00 PM PDT
by
FrogMom
(There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
To: hoosiermama
Yes. And I agree. Fix the broken parts only. Leave all else alone. Thank you very much! God bless.
76
posted on
04/19/2012 2:58:13 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(There's no crying in rebellion!!)
To: Osage Orange; FReepers; FRiends
Thanks very much, dear Osage Orange!!!!!
Make it $7 and FR will get the whole $5.00 for sure!
77
posted on
04/19/2012 2:58:34 PM PDT
by
onyx
(SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
To: Jim Robinson
If we were to open ourselves to advertising, how about strictly conservative ones? Along w/ a membership fee. Non paying members can still post, but be limited to how many per month.
Perhaps if enough of us contact Rush, we can get Two If By Tea, The Heritage Foundation, etc.
Personally, I do enjoy taking care of ourselves, but it seems to get harder and harder each FReepathon.
I wish more people would step up.
78
posted on
04/19/2012 3:00:32 PM PDT
by
NoGrayZone
(Jim "Firebrand" Robinson endorses Newt...with EPIC call to action!!)
To: OldMissileer
Thank you very much, OldMissileer!! And that’s one of the reasons I’ve resisted going commercial all these years. I’d much prefer being beholden to no one but our like-minded loyal participants!!
79
posted on
04/19/2012 3:03:18 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(There's no crying in rebellion!!)
To: Jim Robinson
Jim, You can do both and it won’t harm the quality of the product. I suspect that your loyal Freepers will contribute at any time you need help and feel that money will do the job...you need - you have a great deal of TRUST built into your friends who post.
80
posted on
04/19/2012 3:03:43 PM PDT
by
q_an_a
(the more laws the less justice)
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