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Alternatives to donor based, ie, freepathon business model?
Click here if you wish to continue the donor based business model and free participation for all ^ | April 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/19/2012 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

I've checked with an ad agency. We can probably raise the funds we need to operate FR at our current level and at the current market price for online advertising if we run a banner ad at the top of every page and at least one rectangular ad in the above the fold body of the page and a couple rectangular ads in the sidebar. If that doesn't generate enough revenue, we can also run pop ups or pop unders and we can even run audio and video ads if need be. But of course, if we go full bore commercial, we'd have to insure strict copyright compliance with very brief excerpting of all articles to avoid lawsuits. And the agency would require that we install a filter to censor out any bad or unacceptable words in our posts.

Or, of course, there's always the membership model. We could setup a members only system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc.

I don't like either of the above models and think we'd soon lose a lot of our readers and participants. Of course that may happen anyway if we can't fund it and if we cannot get our equipment problem under control, or if my refusal to vote for or support an abortionist/homosexualist/statist who has plans to install ObamaCare, er, I mean RomneyCare into all 50 states runs everyone off.

The donation model has served us very well since 1997 when we first started using it. It's very clean, uncomplicated and we attract participants who perhaps can't afford membership dues but do want to join the discussion and join our rallies, protests, prayer sessions, etc. And the advertising model would probably bring in the revenue, but it comes with strings attached.

I'm sure there are other ways and ways to combine features of various models, sell books, cds, gear, etc, offer no ads for paid subscribers, etc, even ISP services, but all of these also complicate matters.

I'm an old dog and I like to avoid new tricks, new complications, additional overhead, additional accounting, additional rules and regulations, etc, wherever possible. I like to stick to simplicity and with what works.

Thank you all very much for your continuing participation and support.


TOPICS: Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: advertising; commercial; dues; fr; freepathon; freerepublic; jimrobinson; memberships; merchandising; noncommercial; zot
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,

Whatever works best for you, I'm on board.

However, I might recommend that vanity posters pay a small fee of $5 per vanity thread they start.

No fee, of course, for monthly contributors above $10/month.

21 posted on 04/19/2012 1:56:01 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I vote for a $10 per month membership. All others see ads.


22 posted on 04/19/2012 1:56:39 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: SuperLuminal

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it...

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Is 22% in 19 days really working?


23 posted on 04/19/2012 1:57:05 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Jim Robinson

Are there any like me who donate plenty but still the freepathons make us feel somehow bad? I don’t like that they are so long — I don’t like that some don’t even feel guilty because I feel guilty during them even though I contribute enough.

Maybe membership with stars on our bellies would get every regular freeper to pony up? Sounds silly. But I’d always allow free participation. This is how we get the insiders and famous here, for full anonymity.


24 posted on 04/19/2012 1:57:32 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: taxcontrol
How about members don’t have to see the ads, and non-members do?

That is an interesting idea.
25 posted on 04/19/2012 1:58:21 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Your house boss, run it the way you see fit.
I will add that I kind of like it the way it is.

-Cajun-

26 posted on 04/19/2012 1:59:06 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well....I'm adverse to seeing you take on advertisement. Because of the control you give up.

That said...I don't pay much attention to advertisement anyway.

I'd just as soon...see the non-paying FREEPER's pony up...$3 a month.

FWIW-

27 posted on 04/19/2012 1:59:12 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Jim Robinson

How ‘bout Ads, with an option to pony up a subscription for Ad-Free...


28 posted on 04/19/2012 1:59:47 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Night Hides Not

However, I might recommend that vanity posters pay a small fee of $5 per vanity thread they start.


Worst idea yet. I despise that vanity posts are disapproved of. It gives legitimacy to Our Enemy the MSM. Why should their stories always get top billing? I wouldn’t want everyone’s gardening issues clogging up the site, but FReepers come up with some great political opinions.


29 posted on 04/19/2012 2:02:06 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: lightman

Then members should pony up to improve and keep this site going strong. I am member 5 hundred and something, give with paypal each month so I don’t have to worry about the fund drives


30 posted on 04/19/2012 2:02:58 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Jim Robinson; RedMDer; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; musicman; Lady Jag; ...

God bless you for putting this out for our membership.

As a member of your FReepathon Team, please know that I am willing to keep Free Republic just like it is: completely member funded and totally independent of ads and outsiders!

I know that our FReepathons are taking a longer than in the old days, when our THONS would only take one week, but in those days our financial needs were at the amount of our Monthly Donor donations = $40K!

Whatever y’all decide, will be A-OK with me. I would prefer to keep us completely independent, but if that’s not possible, then go for the least intrusive.

Pop-ups are the pits!


31 posted on 04/19/2012 2:03:28 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I like it the way it is, but I ain't going nowhere if it changes.

I have heard it said that $5 per month per user would cover things well. Come on people, get up off of it. Donate monthly.

32 posted on 04/19/2012 2:03:44 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Newt 2012)
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm with you, Jim. I love this site as it is, in all its visual simplicity, elegance and serenity.

Thank you for your incomparable vision and uncompromising conservatism.

33 posted on 04/19/2012 2:04:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: onyx

Technical question - how do I change my monthly subscription amount?


34 posted on 04/19/2012 2:06:02 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("Your money or your life" has been the Dems unwritten motto for a long time)
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To: Osage Orange

It costs almost $2.00 to process a donation.


35 posted on 04/19/2012 2:06:36 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: mnehring
"Nothing says you cant go back to the old model if it doesnt work."

Except we'd already be bankrupt by the time we find out it doesn't work. We have zero surplus capital, but do have plenty of debts that must be paid on every month. We don't live hand to mouth, but we do live quarter by quarter. We have no financial cushion to fall back on and cannot afford to experiment and lose.

But I thank God for what we have and what we have accomplished as a group anyway. We were never supposed to have gotten this far. Just a group of amateurs and disgruntled citizens banding together on a simple little website to protest against Clinton's abuses. Miss him yet? He was scandal a day, but almost a comical character compared to Obama. Now we're having to fight outright Marxist/communist totalitarian tyranny in our White House!!

Damn the LEFTist bastards!! They'll have to pry my keyboard from my cold dead fingers!!

36 posted on 04/19/2012 2:07:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: rarestia; Jim Robinson
Remember too, Jim, that most modern browsers have plugins and add-ons that prevent the display of ads and pop ups. I personally use Firefox with several such add-ons, and I never see advertisements anywhere.

Same with me,don't even see adds on facebook.

I'm for sticking with what ya got but it is your site,your decision.

37 posted on 04/19/2012 2:07:53 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Mygirlsmom; Jim Robinson
Technical question - how do I change my monthly subscription amount?

Sweetest you, Jim can better answer your question. Thanks very much, Mygirlsmom!!!

38 posted on 04/19/2012 2:09:05 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: rightly_dividing

One dollar per month would cover everything if 10% of our readers would reliably put it up.


39 posted on 04/19/2012 2:10:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
As a new found fan I think the ads are up to you. I'd put up with them, but I'd sure hate to see a FR boycott in the news someday. Please however, if it is at all possible, stay away form the membership model if it means that non payers can't access the news content of the sight. I'll do my best to put my money where my mouth is and keep the current plan working; but if I had to pay every month I'd probably leave. Yes I know its “worth it” I know I should be guilty for saying it. but a mans got to eat and he's got to buy gas to get to work. I'm not trying to freeload.
That's my two cents.
40 posted on 04/19/2012 2:10:40 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Socialism: Just Say No!)
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