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America's deadly devotion to guns
theguardian.co.uk ^ | 16 April 2012 | Gary Younge

Posted on 04/18/2012 9:24:36 PM PDT by smokingfrog

At an organising breakfast for National Rifle Association (NRA) grassroots activists, Samuel Richardson, a man with whom I have not exchanged a word, passes me a note. "Please read the book Injustice by Adams," it reads. "He was [sic] lawyer for US Justice Department who prosecuted Black Panther Case." Quite why Richardson thinks this book is for me is not clear. There are six other people at the table, a couple of them journalists. The fact I am the only black person in a room of around 200 may have something to do with it.

J Christian Adams, a former department of justice lawyer, resigned after the department decided not to prosecute members of the New Black Panther party who brandished guns and intimidated poll watchers outside a voting station in Philadelphia in 2008. Several attorneys, including Republicans, have argued that while the case was serious it did not warrant the department's resources. Adams believed there were darker forces at play, claiming the case "gave the public a glimpse of the racially discriminatory worldview" of the department under Obama.

Richardson goes further. The press and the government are in cahoots, he explains, to oppress white people. "It's fascistic," he explains. "It's just like Hitler did. Discriminating against one ethnic group and claiming that they're the cause of everything that's wrong. It's what happened in Rwanda," intimating that white Americans, like Tutsis, could one day find themselves systematically slaughtered in their own land.

It would be easy to ridicule the NRA. Billboards for its national convention all around St Louis promise "acres of guns and gear". In the exhibition hall they are giving two free guns, twice a day, to anyone wearing a sticker that says "Ambush", and they are selling semi-automatics in pink camouflage.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; gunlobby; omggunnuts
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To: KoRn

10-22’s are NICE and the capability of different style “ad-ons” are almost endless and plentyful (including “clips”).


21 posted on 04/18/2012 10:09:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

plentyful = plentiful ....geezz...sorry


22 posted on 04/18/2012 10:12:06 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep.

Those UK riots would not have gone on for nearly as long as they did if more honest citizens were allowed to own guns.


23 posted on 04/18/2012 10:15:28 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Title needs barf alert.

I made a mess.

Thank You. :)


24 posted on 04/18/2012 10:20:24 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: smokingfrog

Brits still can’t handle we beat their asses. Without guns we’d still be subjects to the damn queen.


25 posted on 04/18/2012 10:49:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: musicman

One of the best rifles to have on hand.


26 posted on 04/18/2012 10:50:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: smokingfrog
The trouble is that, left in the hands of individuals, each gets to define their own version of tyranny and potentially undermine democracy with their firearms.

Hardly. One or even ten guys alone aren't going to decide to overthrow the government and succeed in anything but suicide by cop. "Democracy" is undermined by politicians who don't give a flying fig about the rule of law.

27 posted on 04/18/2012 10:51:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: smokingfrog

Where’s the barf alert?


28 posted on 04/18/2012 10:52:43 PM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: smokingfrog

Dear Mr. Younge, you Marxist pimple on humanity’s arse, our forefather’s unerringly saw the wisdom of maintaining a right to keep and bear arms and threw the British boot heel off of our throats because of it. Now it rests on yours because you were too weak and deluded to keep your government masters from taking all means of resisting them from you. In fact you were so stupid you helped them. Enjoy your subjugation!


29 posted on 04/18/2012 11:07:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: smokingfrog
...in a country with high levels of inequality, poverty and segregation, such as America...

Lying propagandist. What more needs to be said?

30 posted on 04/18/2012 11:15:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: smokingfrog

“Missouri representative Jeanette Oxford, who represents a district in St Louis, disagrees. “From the outset violence was enforced with weapons of various kinds in North America,” she says. “I think the ability to enforce your right through might is ingrained in us.”

The strong can’t tyranize the weak if, and only if, the weak are armed.

Rep Jeantte Oxford is a Democrap, of course. Her position is satirized by her own appearance - rather obese and fitting for a Democratic “Trough Feeder”.


31 posted on 04/18/2012 11:39:22 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: chris37
That's a decent looking rifle. My last purchase was from Magnum Research. They made a custom receiver to Ruger specs with an integral Picatinny rail, carbon fiber barrel and skeletonized stock. I had to replace the firing pin and hammer spring to get it to shoot reliably. It was just fine after those minor fixes. A note on their site now addresses the problem. Quality ammo in their "Benz" high accuracy chamber. They recommend CCI Standard velocity ammo for proper cycling. The "stinger" cases are too long for the chamber. The color scheme for the stock is "Forest Camo".


32 posted on 04/18/2012 11:57:02 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Lovely rifle wow!

That skeletal stock is just fantastic.

I have found that shooting cheap Remington .22 lr ammo out of the sr22 will cause the gun to jam from time to time. It’s easy to clear, but that does frustrate. Same thing happens in my standard Ruger 10/22 if I use the same Remington ammo.


33 posted on 04/19/2012 12:13:35 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
The MR rifle is light as a feather and perfectly balanced in your left hand. My wife opted for the 17M2 version. Both are very accurate and pleasant to shoot. I opted for a CZ 452 Varmint bolt action for my 17M2 rifle. It's a a real tack driver. Checking their site, it was discontinued in 2010. I hope that isn't indicative of an issue of ammo availability. No opportunity to go to the range for the last 3 years :-(
34 posted on 04/19/2012 12:24:04 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: chris37
Is that bad little puppy perchance available in .17 Rem., or .22 WMR ?
35 posted on 04/19/2012 1:17:23 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: smokingfrog

As Muslims, political correctness and cultural diversity destroy the UK, the time will come when the victims will wish they were armed.


36 posted on 04/19/2012 12:42:39 PM PDT by pallis
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To: lentulusgracchus

No, I don’t think so. It is strictly a Ruger 10/22 barrel and receiver with specially made ar-15 parts. It is capable of using all Ruger 10/22 accessories as well as ar-15 accessories, and as far as I know it only fires .22 lr ammo.

It’s kind of like shooting an ar-15 with really inexpensive ammo, which is nice. Very fun to shoot this weapon, and with a bipod and red dot, it is so accurate it’s frightening.


37 posted on 04/19/2012 12:45:19 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: eclecticEel

I am amazed when people call the NRA successful as there are huge swaths of land in this nation where people cannot carry guns.


38 posted on 04/19/2012 12:46:19 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: eclecticEel

I am amazed when people call the NRA successful as there are huge swaths of land in this nation where people cannot carry guns.


39 posted on 04/19/2012 12:46:31 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Dear U.K. Get over it. American riflemen and natural born patriotic freemen kicked your ass. Let it go.

Damn right. 237 years ago today, as a matter of fact, when the Brits in question were trying to take our guns.

They can kiss my ass and go back to the other side of the Pond and stay there.

40 posted on 04/19/2012 11:47:15 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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