Posted on 04/17/2012 4:47:30 PM PDT by Williams
Well it's been about 13 years forgot my initial sign in name, so pretty much from the beginning.
Never wanted to write a Free Republic Opus, love reading news stories here and commenting every day.
Would rather not go out in anger seems pointless.
Then today the owner of the site called me a RINO (I'm not), surrender monkey (not) and told me to write my opus and get out.
My sin was fighting with someone who suggested Obama losing in the latest poll is "bad news".
I could list all the insanity of what is going on here. I've tried to approach Jim Robinson in email to gently suggest the problems we are facing. It's clear from that he is not interested in discussing and resolving anything, which is a shame.
But what kind of man, American, conservative will I be if I worry more about losing my 12 year old screen name versus standing up to people who are espousing the advisability of reelecting Barack Hussein Obama, and yes if I fail to stand up to the owner of a site for calling me a liberal when I am a proud conservative?
What Jim Robinson is doing cannot work because first of all he is NOT attacking the posters who say it is best to reelect Obama. He's offended by anyone who says he is thereby supporting Obama. But he doesn't mind calling us names when we attack the pro Obamas.
OK folks, it's not going to work. You can't really oppose Obama's reelection if you may also oppose the republican's election.
Free Republic has become a house divided against itself and it cannot stand.
I'm a conservative I love my country, I have to wish away to the cornfield anyone who would assist in the reelection of Obama, from whatever misguided motivations.
I stand with Dick Cheney. The other day I had to fight with someone disparaging Cheney here. They were not criticized by the owner.
Jim Robinson owes me an apology. Not planning on getting one. The sad fact is I am not writing this because I'm offended. It's because I want to no longer assist here in the destruction of my country by those who will, to varying degrees, assist in Obama's reelection.
Six or seven liberals on the Supreme Court? Maybe atomic destruction down the pike after our disarmament. Israel destroyed. 2nd Amendment neutered. Obamacare used to deny people medical care based on age and political beliefs. Racial strife. A welfare socialist state. US attorneys going after republicans.
My wife is a cancer survivor who reasonably fears that in the future they will deny her care because she is a registered republican. And she's no RINO, she hates Obama and she won't read Free Republic stories anymore because of what is going on here.
We have a real country and real lives out here that go beyond Jim Robinson's ill advised name calling against sincere conservatives who dare to disagree with him.
So F anyone who calls me a RINO for standing with Dick Cheney and against Barack Obama. I hate RINO's and I despise misguided so called conservatives who do anything to reelect Obama.
13 years, but it's nothing when put to the wall on my beliefs against the left wing democrat party. I have too many mirrors to look in. The people here who are every day posting that it will be best to reelect Obama, should be thrown off. Instead, well...
It's over.
Liberal Romney will have the White House.... you think liberals will have the US House too? With the Senate up for grabs by liberals?
Romney is not "we"
I'm not saying either is 'better'. Hitler and Stalin were equally evil, one just happened to be a more direct strategic threat and allying with the other put Churchill in a better strategic position.
As I said, this isn't an endorsement of anyone. Hell, I probably will vote for our own Tom Hoefling over what appears to be these two jokers. Those are just my thoughts about the battle we face.
He opus’d out. It’s been my experience that most who opus, but stay end up as trouble making antifreepers. If he wants to waste the rest of his days bitching about FR 24/7 like so many other sore losers, he can do it elsewhere.
Dick Cheney doesn’t have to explain anything to you. I bet you voted for that horrible McCain. Talk about abandoning principles. In my opinion he is worse that Romney. He’s crazy.
Dick Cheney, like you, believes he is doing what’s right. If FR starts turning on people like Cheney than I don’t want to be here anyway.
There are exactly two living people that I greatly admire. One of them is Cheney, the other is Rumsfeld. I will stand by them.
No need to vote for either one of them. The only reason we keep getting mushy RINOs pushed upon us as the Republican candidate is because the party leaders and the candidates know we'll vote for them as the lesser of two evils. Let them learn to work for our votes.
In the mean time, work hard, very hard, to elect conservative House and Senate members and keep their feet to the fire on every issue. If we can really control the House and the Senate there isn't much that the President can do, even appointing justices requires getting the Senate to confirm them. A solid conservative House and Senate is more important than anything else.
The fear of being saddled with liberal judges is real, but Romney has already shown us that he'll appoint liberal judges during his term as governor in Massachusetts so we've got that problem regardless of who wins.
Bottom line for me - there's no conservative candidate running for President, so we've got to focus 100% on the down ticket races.
Now THAT is a better analogy.
Remember, some of us have the luxury of voting our conscious, because our state will go Republican no matter what we do.
However, to those who don't have that luxury, they are faced with this very dilemma: Slow poison or the bullet. I cannot necessarily fault those who would choose the slow poison.
There are those who would choose an unoffered option: Attacking the murderer who made you make that choice. The attack, in this case, would be a write-in vote. In that event -- sadly and realistically -- they are still overpowered, and the choice to take the poison or the bullet is given to them by others.
I agree with you about Cheney. If he’s considered a RINO than so am I.
What Williams wrote about Cheney was a made-up strawman argument to win him sympathy. He's referring to the discussion I had with him on a thread about Cheney endorsing Mitt Romney. I most certainly did not insult Dick Cheney. Disagreeing with Cheney and wondering why he might have endorsed him now is not an insult. I also pointed out how Cheney was also against the federal marriage amendment, and his daughter is a lesbian. So I speculated he might be falling in line with the GOP now to help his daughter Liz rise to prominence in the party or at least avoid a targetted tax audit under Obama. No "disparaging" of Dick Cheney took place, who I consider to be a conservative hero up there with Rumsfeld, Gingrich, Palin, Kemp, West, etc.
Count on Laz to ‘hit it’ ;)
I am reminded of the quote about when you keep your head when all around are losing theirs... That’s leadership. Heavy burden and all that, but true regardless.
And for those others gearing up the ‘brown nose’ comments, save them. If you spent more time thinking about what it is you truly believe in, you would be better served.
RINO offends you? - Why?
I haven’t been a republican since Dick Nixon. I’ve been on FR for 17 years, been zotted for a whole year once for . . . can’t remember why now. .
Buck up, soldier.
That’s pretty much how I’ve regarded you all these years. One man, his website, and he sometimes jumps in with his opinions.
I suppose it is just natural for people to seek out some kind of shepherd to lead them. Seems lazy to me though.
We are faced with an awkward scenario. On the one hand, we want Obama defeated to stop the socialist takeover of our country. On the other hand, we want to stop the gradual social decay of our country facilitated by people such as Romney.
Not voting for Romney advances the socialist takeover by Obama. Voting for Romney advances the insidious social decay, the gradual but constant slippery slope, the secular domination, the more subtle but equally inexorable attacks on people of faith.
It is a difficult choice. Given that choice, I opt to make a stand and not lend my support to the insidious social decay, and choose to vote for neither Obama nor Romney. I opt to no longer ride in the handbasket sliding more and more rapidly down the slippery slope. I choose not to willingly wade into the cesspool at the bottom.
I know the arguments. If Obama is reelected, we supposedly no longer will have a nation. I personally regard that as hyperbole. But even if it is not, there are some things more important than life itself.
We also need to understand, however, that, with regard to the cultural decay of our nation, that the course upon which we are heading—voting for more and more liberal and secular Republicans, tolerating and acceptable more and more amoral and immoral underpinnings of our society—is every bit as sure of a bad ending culturally as a vote for Obama has a bad ending politically.
The debate is complicated, and obscured, and falsified, and muddled, by the fact that many secular Republicans are in favor of the positions of social liberals. They therefore see Romney not as the lesser of two evils, but as a beloved trojan horse advancing their cause both economically and socially.
They, every bit as much as Obama, are my enemy.
I will not wade willingly into the cesspool. I will not trade even the most precious things of this earth, even our country, for my soul.
“But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city.”
(Hebrews 11:16)
I don't believe that is an option.
Even better analogy. What if an evil mastermind gives you the choice of killing your own child with either a gun or a sword? Do you acquiesce and pick one? Or do you flat out refuse to participate in an act of evil and let the chips fall where they may?
Please know there are so many others who have been banished lately, and there are sure to be more. Many here are treading lightly because they have seen their FReeper friends get booted.
Best of luck to you, and take comfort in the fact that you wrote a beautiful farewell, and that you still have FRiends here.
Yea, I just noticed it was permanent, not just a casual goodbye.
I totally agree. DC does not have to explain squat to me. He’s still abandoning his conservative ideals and you still haven’t answered the question. Why is that? Because it blowe your excuses to hell if you answer honestly?
and in Romney’s case there is no “except”. ugh
Yeah. I feel JR and I are way past the stage of me bothering with brown nose stuff. I calls em like I sees em, and JR's earned my respect, especially with this principled stand on Romney. If JR suddenly went all liberal on me, I'd cuss him out and opus, myself. :)
I’ve been here for 13 years & it ain’t what it used to be. I took eight weeks off in 2010 in order to knock off King RINO Mike Castle in Delaware, and I also was recently labeled a RINO here? I think the “gag rule” was ultimately a bad thing for this site. And for the record, I’m supporting Newt for now.
This is really a shame. I hope you’ll come back after the pandemonium has ebbed. Your perspective, at the end of all this, will be very interesting.
I’m with Mr. Robinson, though. He’s been clear as a bell about supporting Mittens here. Mitt is a lying, elitist RINO and this site shouldn’t ever degrade itself to allow support for him. There’s no other place like this one - you know that or else you wouldn’t have spent all those years posting here.
We all make mistakes and post things we wish we hadn’t. Hell, I’m surprised I haven’t been booted just to raise the overall IQ of the place. I wish I could make comments half as intelligent as the rest of the people here.
Take a break. Think about what this place really is. Think about how there must be one place like this one. If there isn’t, we’re all screwed.
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