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Here are your presidential choices as it stands today
April 16, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/16/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Here are their positions on some major issues important to conservatives based on their actual records in government or past boasts.

Issue Obama Romney Newt
Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America y y n
Defended Roe v Wade as settled law y y n
Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok y y n
Supported planned parenthood y y n
Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion y y n
Supports homosexual agenda y y n
Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy y y n
Ok with homosexuals in Scouts y y n
Ok with homosexuals in military y y n
Supported and still supports global warming hoax y y n
Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban) y y n
Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty) y y n
Is undeniable father of RomneyCare n y n
Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare n y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is great! y y n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution" n y n
Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional y y n
Still believes individual mandate ok at state level y y n
Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level n y n
Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights) ? y n
Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there y y n
Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary y y n
Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax) n n y
Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate) n n y
Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year n n y
Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated n n y
Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated n n y
Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits n n y
Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment n n y
Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people n n y
Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry n n y
Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights n n y
Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges y y n
Will challenge activist judiciary n n y
Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up n n y


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To: Jim Robinson

I know every minute detail of the reality of this list... but it chills the blood to see it in a spreadsheet.

LLS


421 posted on 04/16/2012 5:03:42 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES! (accept only the original))
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To: Brad's Gramma

Forget it, dear, it’s a waste of time!!! You are only fooling yourself while making a fool out of your self which is totally unecessary if you live in the real world. I cannot believe the filthy verbage and hate spasms I have noted on this site posted by so called conservative Freepers. Leftie nutcase/Righty nutcase, what’s the difference??? Obama must be defeated!!! End of story!!! I want Freedom, Liberty, Opportunity to succeed and progress with individual effort. Obama rules with hate, racism and communism, and the righties rule with hate, racism and Nazism!!! If only some of these Freeper posters could objectively read what they pen!!! Sad!!!


422 posted on 04/16/2012 5:05:23 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy t, cast Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Artcore; Jim Robinson; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Salvation; NYer; narses; Pyro7480; xzins; ...
Many of these same folks who are bi*ching about Romney being our potential nominee, actively joined the likes of Politico and other Left-leaning rags in trashing our guys. Now they have the onions to sit here and cast condemnation on those of us who will support Romney if he becomes the nominee. Sorry guys, but when you joined Politco in their trashing of Bachmann and Cain, you helped bring this on.

This is the same crap that you trolls were trying to sell us four years ago when we rejected Rooty.

Myth Romney is THE MOST SUCCESSFUL LEFTIST POLITICIAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY. NOTHING that Zero has done could have been accomplished without Myth paving the way for socialized medicine and militant homosexualism.

Read Jim's chart on this thread. Myth doesn't have a chance in hell of winning, but even if he did his agenda would be just as destructive. Myth needs to be stopped and it needs to happen right now.

423 posted on 04/16/2012 5:08:30 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: JediJones

Ronald Reagan, “The USA is only one election away from tyranny!!!”!!! You think it can’t happen here. Just study world history and you will get a concrete answer!!!


424 posted on 04/16/2012 5:09:13 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy t, cast Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX; Brad's Gramma
Forget it, dear, it’s a waste of time!!! You are only fooling yourself while making a fool out of your self which is totally unecessary if you live in the real world. I cannot believe the filthy verbage and hate spasms I have noted on this site posted by so called conservative Freepers. Leftie nutcase/Righty nutcase, what’s the difference??? Obama must be defeated!!! End of story!!! I want Freedom, Liberty, Opportunity to succeed and progress with individual effort. Obama rules with hate, racism and communism, and the righties rule with hate, racism and Nazism!!! If only some of these Freeper posters could objectively read what they pen!!! Sad!!!

Yesss! Listen to JLGRAYFOX, Brad's Gramma! It's hopelesssss to want anyone but Romney! You must support Romney! If you don't vote for Romney, Obama will be re-elected, and it will be ALL...YOUR...FAULT!


425 posted on 04/16/2012 5:10:55 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: D-fendr; EGPWS; itsahoot
Most voters are stupid. They still read newspapers and watch TV news. And buy every word of it.

And the party doesn't pick people that we would. They pick their own stooges.

Florida broke the rules for Romney. Has the party said anything? No? Why is that? Hm?

426 posted on 04/16/2012 5:11:25 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
the righties rule with hate, racism and Nazism!!!

Oh my! That is quite an accusation. And still using the 3 exclamation marks, so I guess we better listen.

I don't think you are fooling anyone any more.

427 posted on 04/16/2012 5:11:57 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Great chart

I would like to see a chart with Rick Perry on these issues.

To see what we lost.


428 posted on 04/16/2012 5:12:33 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Defiant
Conservatives are locked out of the Republican Party, purposely and permanently.

How, precisely, is this implemented?

429 posted on 04/16/2012 5:12:33 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: wagglebee

“This is the same crap that you trolls were trying to sell us four years ago when we rejected Rooty.”
_____________________________________________

I was (still am) actually a huge Palin supporter...the only reason I voted McLame.


430 posted on 04/16/2012 5:15:50 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore
I was (still am) actually a huge Palin supporter...the only reason I voted McLame.

Riiight [rolls eyes]

431 posted on 04/16/2012 5:18:14 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Most voters are stupid.

I think that is a doomed worldview. The idea of liberty is that you can trust free and informed individuals. I think this is a conservative worldview.

And the party doesn't pick people that we would.

The party doesn't prevent any qualified candidate from running and doesn't prevent any conservative from voting for them.

The "party" is not the same one day to the other. It's not this unchanging monolithic abstract. It is comprised of individuals. Those in positions of power can be changed and have been.

Any thing you can do with a third party you can do easier and quicker within the GOP. Anything you can't do within the GOP, you can't do with a third party.

432 posted on 04/16/2012 5:18:58 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Jim Robinson; JLAGRAYFOX; Brad's Gramma

>> “Obama rules with hate, racism and communism, and the righties rule with hate, racism and Nazism!” <<

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Is the lightning machine down for service today?
.


433 posted on 04/16/2012 5:19:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Florida broke the rules for Romney.

If I remember correctly, Virginia did a little rule rewrite and interpretation also to favor Mittens.

434 posted on 04/16/2012 5:19:42 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: Drew68
"Good for you.

When my children are suffering under the draconian policies of the second Obama Administration, no way no how will I look them in the eyes and say, "Don't blame me! I wrote in Sarah Palin!"

Is that really what we conservatives have come to? Ready to dismiss a Christian's loyalty to God and His expectations of His children? It's really easy to spew talk about the Lord, but this is one of those HARD times when, if you know Him, you have to search your heart, pray, and really ask yourself if aligning yourself with abortion and homosexuality is permissible in His eyes. And then act accordingly, as hard as it is.

Country is important, but nothing comes before God. Trust in His blessings and loving care. But, the choice is up to you, of course. Just don't be so dismissive of moral and spiritual priorities.

435 posted on 04/16/2012 5:19:48 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: editor-surveyor
Is the lightning machine down for service today?

I think we're letting the RomneyBots and conservative quislings play around a little...

436 posted on 04/16/2012 5:20:53 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Artcore; Jim Robinson; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Salvation; NYer; narses; Pyro7480; xzins; ...
I was (still am) actually a huge Palin supporter...the only reason I voted McLame.

A true Palin supporter would NEVER support Myth Romney. And I say that as one of the very earliest Palin supporters, I was supporting her candidacy months before most non-Alaskans even knew who she was (and I can prove it).

437 posted on 04/16/2012 5:21:34 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ml/nj

I believe it would be unconstitutional for the state to force its citizens to enter into private contracts against their will simply for simply living within a state. I might understand requiring liability insurance if you wish to register and drive a car within a state, but compulsory health insurance just to live in the state? This would be a direct violation of their 4th amendment right to be secure in their homes, papers and private affairs if nothing else.

Definitely a violation of the founding principles and of our inalienable God-given rights to individual liberty and right to self-rule and economic freedom (pursuit of happiness). It’s clear to see that Romney cares no more about individual sovereignty or conservatism or Liberty than does Obama!!

Ronald Reagan on RomneyCare (compulsory health insurance) and the elites (Romney) introducing socialism into America via compulsory health insurance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs


438 posted on 04/16/2012 5:23:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: flintsilver7
"Is Romney an enemy? Socially, absolutely, but he’s not an enemy of the country"

He promotes abortion and homosexuality, which contributes to the downfall of the nation. God is real.

439 posted on 04/16/2012 5:23:59 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: D-fendr

Again, you apparently did not read the post you responded to.


440 posted on 04/16/2012 5:24:54 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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