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NASA shows off new algae farming technique for making biofuel
http://phys.org ^ | 04-16-2012 | Bob Yirka

Posted on 04/16/2012 7:11:14 AM PDT by Red Badger

NASA is clearly looking far into the future for a way to handle both human waste and a need for fuel on either long space flights or when attempting to colonize another planet. To that end, they’ve assigned life support engineer Jonathan Trent the task of coming up with a way to use algae to solve both problems at once. His solution is to use plastic bags floating in seawater as small bioreactors, containing wastewater, sunlight and carbon dioxide to grow algae that can be used as a means to create biofuel.

The whole thing is called Offshore Membrane Enclosures for Growing Algae or more concisely, OMEGA, and will be demonstrated to reporters at one of San Francisco’s public utilities water pollution control plants tomorrow and is the culmination of $10 million worth of research.

The idea is more practical than revolutionary says Trent, who has spoken to reporters already about the project. The idea was to figure out a way to create an algae farm that could be placed close to a waste treatment facility, without taking up a bunch of land. That’s when he came up with idea of using plastic bags floating in the ocean. Conventional systems use large pools of water set up on dry land. In the test facility, each bag is four meters long and has been seeded with wastewater and carbon dioxide. Sunlight makes its way through the clear plastic as the bags float on seawater, which not only serves as a place for the bags to reside, but also help keep the algae cool, which must be done mechanically in other facilities. The algae eat the wastewater and grow until the bag is filled, at which point it is removed to be used for making biofuel.

Reports thus far show that algae farms set up in this manner would be capable of producing over two and a half million gallons of fuel annually in an area just under two square miles.

Trent says with a real farm, the carbon dioxide come could from nearby power plants, helping to reduce the carbon footprint of the whole process. Not helping, on the other hand, is that the whole scheme is based on petroleum based plastic bags, which in addition to their inherent carbon footprint would also have to be disposed of once a year as they degrade in saltwater. Trent suggests that California farmer’s could use them as field cover instead of the large tarps they currently use. He also says that if one or more of the bags should break, like say in a storm, there is no worry as the algae would die in the seawater and the wastewater released would be the same as wastewater facilities such as those in San Francisco already pump into the bay.

At this point it seems clear that a new type of plastic will need to be developed for the project to become viable, especially if it is to be ported to space exploration applications at some point; perhaps one made from biodegradable material so that it could be grown along the way, and then could be used as fertilizer afterwards.

More information: Offshore Membrane Enclosures for Growing Algae (OMEGA) project: http://www.nasa.go … A/index.html


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: automobile; biodiesel; biofuel; energy; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: Red Badger

Another payoff scenario for an Obama big donor?


41 posted on 04/16/2012 10:45:53 AM PDT by rxtn41
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To: Reeses

I’m picturing trying to talk the neighbors into allowing the 10 mile by 10 mile plastic sewer mat off their beach, then repeating the fight 200 times.


42 posted on 04/16/2012 11:10:15 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: dangerdoc

If the bags are placed so they drift out to sea, once they get 200 miles offshore they are in international waters where activist judges and envi-mentalists have very little say. The Gulf of Mexico surface current moves in a clockwise manner so the bags could be on a natural conveyor belt, ending up close to the Texas refineries at their harvest time. Also we don’t have to use sewage or plastic bags. Possibly we can splice in some watermelon DNA into a seaweed so the water bags are made of seaweed.


43 posted on 04/16/2012 11:34:28 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses
"When the algae puzzle is solved....."

The issue is not what we will after some dream comes true, the issue is "What are we going to do NOW". We need resources to develop new technology, and those resources come from PROFITS, not government. If we rely on government to solve problems we simply become another Soviet Union. I will bet you anything you choose that the solution to abundant energy is not anything that's ever been in Popular Science magazine.

44 posted on 04/16/2012 12:33:07 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Since the stone age leaps in technology are typically funded by military spending. That’s because the military is often the only customer willing to pay the initial price. Once a market is created the price starts dropping, eventually to the point a technology is ready for consumer markets. For example when integrated circuits were first invented they cost $1,000 each. The first customer was the military which used them in jet bombers. Now ICs cost pennies. Biofuel will likely follow a similar route. Military demand will drive this, and it will happen very quickly if a large war breaks out. NASA and the military are closely linked.


45 posted on 04/16/2012 1:13:05 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Jonty30
I know it’s more expensive for now. I’m not suggesting selling it. Although it could be sold at a loss, to offset costs. :) Just developing it.

That's fine with me as long as you invest your money in it and you take the losses. Not one dime of taxpayer money.

46 posted on 04/16/2012 1:37:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

You mean part of the price you pay at the pump? :)


47 posted on 04/16/2012 1:45:09 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30
I mean any revenues collected by the government from any source.
48 posted on 04/16/2012 1:46:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

I agree with you. NASA should be completely privatized or disbanded.


49 posted on 04/16/2012 1:54:15 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Red Badger
On one of Lemuel Gulliver's many travels, he went to Laputa, an island floating in the sky, populated by scientists and philosophers engaged in esoteric projects-- one of which was to extract sunshine from cucumbers. I think Swift would be amused with NASA's latest venture.
50 posted on 04/16/2012 3:48:32 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: norwaypinesavage
Algae don't simply convert carbon dioxide into fuel. They USE THE SUN'S ENERGY to make the conversion. The energy has to come from somewhere. Someone needs to tell these dudes that there ain't no sunlight in a space ship.

Whammo! Point goes to nps.

51 posted on 04/16/2012 3:55:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Red Badger
The whole thing is called Offshore Membrane Enclosures for Growing Algae or more concisely, OMEGA, and will be demonstrated to reporters at one of San Francisco’s public utilities water pollution control plants tomorrow and is the culmination of $10 million worth of research.

I could have saved NASA $9 million (after my 10% consulting fee).

52 posted on 04/16/2012 3:56:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Reeses
Since the stone age leaps in technology are typically funded by military spending.

Absolutely.

That’s because the military is often the only customer willing to pay the initial price

It's also because the military is the one group that is least likely to be oppressed by the ruling class, which also explains their funding. Medical technology has also made great progress because of war. War is still hell, though.

53 posted on 04/16/2012 4:01:55 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: TigersEye
That's fine with me as long as you invest your money in it and you take the losses. Not one dime of taxpayer money.

Funny how many would-be conservatives happen to overlook that inconvenient point. If this is feasible, the market will see to it and make it profitable.

Government subsidies only promise more Solyndras and bridges/trains to nowhere.

54 posted on 04/16/2012 4:04:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Red Badger
NASA is clearly looking far into the future for a way to handle both human waste and a need for fuel on either long space flights or when attempting to colonize another planet.

I wonder if NASA will be launching oceans and huge plastic bags on their future flights.

55 posted on 04/16/2012 4:04:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: bigbob
“the trick is to find a way to grew and harvest it essentially for free, with close to zero input costs.”

No trick to it. There's already a hug patch (several hundred sq miles) of the stuff growing out in the Gulf of Mexico. This algae is a result primarily of another failed government program, ethanol. Sooo, if algae is to be one of our future sources of energy, let's run a test by using the already available source. We kill two birds with one stone; beta test algae as a viable source of energy and clean up the Gulf. A two’fer! Yeaaaa..... lol!

56 posted on 04/16/2012 4:08:19 PM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: Reeses

sounds like a hazard to navigation.

I also thought that the tubes needed to be connected to some machinery, kind of hard to do when they are out drifting in the open ocean.


57 posted on 04/16/2012 4:24:45 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: dangerdoc; Reeses

What happens to a 10 mile X 10 mile floating algae farm when a hurricane comes along?


58 posted on 04/16/2012 4:27:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Reeses
"Biofuel will likely follow a similar route. Military demand will drive this.."

I was burning bio-diesel in a Chevy Blazer two decades ago. The fuel was made from soy beans using a process that my grandmother used to make soap nearly a century ago. We need ENERGY, not war.

59 posted on 04/16/2012 4:31:15 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: dangerdoc
“two and a half million gallons of fuel annually in an area just under two square miles”

Transportation fuel use is about 6 billion barrels per year or about 240 billion gallons per year. Check my math but that means about 10 thousands square miles of sewage filled plastic bags floating along our coasts.

I show 240 billion/2.5 million = 96,000.

192,000 square miles.

60 posted on 04/16/2012 4:40:11 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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