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To: cripplecreek

A COostitutional convention would be a disaster of the first order.

The convention will be dominated by those who agree with SCOTUS Judge Ginsberg, who would swap the US Constitution for a combination of the UN Declaration if Human Rights and the South African Constitution.

A convention may make sense in a time when people basically still support the Constitution. But now we have an administration and a Democrat party who actively disavow the Constitution, and often say so in so many words.

We have a president who explicitly and publicy states that blames the Constitution for his own failures.

Let’s secure the existing Constitution as the foundational legal document of this nation, before we go mucking around with it.


7 posted on 04/14/2012 9:49:06 AM PDT by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: Maceman

We don’t need a constitutional convention, what we need is a states vs fed confrontation.

I’d love to see a situation where a few states entered a trade contract while shutting the feds out and ignoring the interstate commerce clause.

What could the feds do aside from cutting highway funds (just one example) If Michigan offered up 1000 tax free tons of the world’s purest copper to Minnesota, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Indiana? The feds trying to blockade the shipments would likely lead to retaliation from other states.


15 posted on 04/14/2012 10:08:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Maceman
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45 posted on 04/15/2012 6:29:40 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Maceman
Consider that the individual states get a vote; not the delegates except through their position of representing their state, it is doable. The states wanting to disolve would have to be very careful in selecting their delegates in ensuring they will represent the people of that state. No backstabbing the conservative legislatures! Men and women who are like George Washington: uncorruptable.

First of all, consider the following states, and the fact that the majority of the individual states in the USA are conservative:

Utah
Idaho
Wyoming
Alaska
Alabama
Arizona
Texas
Tennessee
Kentucky
Montana
North Dakota
Nebraska
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Mississippi
South Carolina
Indiana
Arkansas
Kansas
Georgia
Louisiana
North Carolina
Virginia
New Hampshire
West Virginia

That's 25 states we can usually depend on to be conservative. The next group are iffy:

Nevada
Colorado
New Mexico
Missouri
Ohio
Florida
Iowa

That's 32. We'll still need 2 more from one of these more liberal states:

Wisconsin
Pennsylvania
Michigan
Maine
Delaware

Depending on how bad things get, it might be doable.

Finally, states that would stab us in the back (in order of their conservative minority to liberal majority--in my opinion):

Minnesota
Illinois
New Jersey
Washington
Oregon
Rhode Island
Hawaii
California
New York
Vermont
Connecticut
Maryland
Massachusetts

So that would be how the Constitutional Convention would line up. Your mileage may vary!

48 posted on 04/15/2012 7:07:40 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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