[Alice in Wonderland]

In daddy's interview he said George was looking for street signs. Fine, he was looking for house numbers too. Okay?

Now forget about all of that and try to concentrate . . .

Was Zimmerman parked on Twin Trees? Yes or No

Did Zimmerman use the walkway (cutoff) to walk to Retreat View Circle? Yes or No

To return to his vehicle would Zimmerman turn around, retrace his steps, and walk from Retreat View Circle back to Twin Trees? Yes or No

Still with me . . .?

It appears that Zimmerman detoured and turned left. He went onto the long walkway that ran thru the backyards of the buildings . . . in a direction took him further away from his vehicle. It was on that long walkway where the shooting took place. He got there somehow.

Now for the $64,000 question . . .

Did Zimmerman voluntarily go on the long walkway? Yes or No

To help you visualize it, I've included this photo. Twin Trees is off-camera to the right. Retreat View Circle is off-camera to the left. The shooting happened on that long walkway.

[Aunt Polgara]

In answer to Alice's question: "Did Zimmerman use the walkway (cutoff) to walk to Retreat View Circle?" The Wagist website has Z walking along that sidewalk on the north of the 2 rows of townhomes, but there are also cuthroughs (without sidewalks) in between each of the townhome buildings which you can see if you use google maps. When Z said that Trayvon was headed toward the back entrance, they might both have been on the north-south part of Twin Trees dr, not on the northern sidewalk at all, and Trayvon might have cut through between buildings to the south of that northern sidewalk, not on the northern sidewalk at all. In other words, Trayvon and Z may just have well been to the south of that walkway walking between 2 buidings, which would account for Z traveling north toward that sidewalk (and his vehicle) when the altercation occurred.

To give credence to this possible scenario, this is from the Q&A on the city of Sanford website:

What about media reenactments of the shooting incident? Any media reenactments of the shooting incident are purely speculation. To date the Sanford Police Department has not released any rendition of the events of the evening to anyone other than the Office of the State Attorney. The renditions we have seen are not consistent with the evidence in this case.

Is there any evidence to refute this? (Note to Cboldt. I hope you don't mind me pinging you to these threads. You seem to be the most knowledgeable around here, and I really do want to understand what's going on.)

[cynwoody]

Did Zimmerman voluntarily go on the long walkway? Yes or No

Most likely, he did. The fight happened by the tree over Cheryl Brown's left shoulder in your photo.

Of course, by the time the encounter occurred, Martin, whose girlfriend tells us was either walking fast or running, should have been most or all of the way to Brandy Green's townhouse, which would be off in the distance, over Cheryl Brown's right shoulder.

Instead, Martin, obviously royally pissed at being profiled, pops out of the darkness and confronts and assaults Zimmerman.

Supposedly, the day after, Zimmerman met with the police at the scene and, on video, led them through the sequence of events.

[Ken H]

In daddy's interview he said George was looking for street signs.

I don't believe that's true. I listened to the youtube of that interview. Dad says nothing about George looking for street signs or not knowing what street he was on. He says that George was going to look for an address for the police. Listen from the 1:40 mark to 2:15.

You implied that Zimmerman was lying and you appear to have based it on a falsehood. Explain to us how you got that wrong.