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To: Alice in Wonderland; Cboldt
In answer to Alice's question: "Did Zimmerman use the walkway (cutoff) to walk to Retreat View Circle?" The Wagist website has Z walking along that sidewalk on the north of the 2 rows of townhomes, but there are also cuthroughs (without sidewalks) in between each of the townhome buildings which you can see if you use google maps. When Z said that Trayvon was headed toward the back entrance, they might both have been on the north-south part of Twin Trees dr, not on the northern sidewalk at all, and Trayvon might have cut through between buildings to the south of that northern sidewalk, not on the northern sidewalk at all. In other words, Trayvon and Z may just have well been to the south of that walkway walking between 2 buidings, which would account for Z traveling north toward that sidewalk (and his vehicle) when the altercation occurred.

To give credence to this possible scenario, this is from the Q&A on the city of Sanford website:

What about media reenactments of the shooting incident? Any media reenactments of the shooting incident are purely speculation. To date the Sanford Police Department has not released any rendition of the events of the evening to anyone other than the Office of the State Attorney. The renditions we have seen are not consistent with the evidence in this case.

Is there any evidence to refute this? (Note to Cboldt. I hope you don't mind me pinging you to these threads. You seem to be the most knowledgeable around here, and I really do want to understand what's going on.)

154 posted on 04/14/2012 9:01:05 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Aunt Polgara
"In other words, Trayvon and Z may just have well been to the south of that walkway walking between 2 buidings, which would account for Z traveling north toward that sidewalk (and his vehicle) when the altercation occurred."

Like so?

GZ's father and brother both repeat George's story that Martin disappeared down the sidewalk (from C, towards E, and turning to his right then running towards F and D).

I had wondered if GZ did take the route in pink, and came upon Martin, around F.

"The renditions we have seen are not consistent with the evidence in this case."

The way I'm reading that is, the "media reenactments" are the ones not consistent, but GZ's version, is "consistent with the evidence in this case."

159 posted on 04/14/2012 9:26:53 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Aunt Polgara
Here's a link to another scenario. I've called it the "two encounters" version, as it has Martin approach Zimmerman, in his truck, twice.

The Missing 2:30 & DeeDee's Testimony by Dan Linehan on April 4, 2012

I haven't formed an opinion of the details of exactly how the two got within reach of each other, except that I think Martin is not scared, and he closes distance periodically. In the two encounter scenario, I have to think that Zimmerman may have willingly walked to within reach of Martin. That doesn't merit a punch in the face, and it also doesn't amount to Zimmerman "cornering" Martin, as DeeDee claims.

169 posted on 04/14/2012 12:31:52 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Aunt Polgara; Cboldt; PhatHead

Cboldt and PhatHead are my go to guys. I can’t keep up with the daily developments, and they have always seemed to know their stuff.


194 posted on 04/14/2012 4:38:02 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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