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To: Principled
and... they aren’t considering Newt.

I considered Newt. I considered his support for DeDe Schozzafava. I considered his global warming commercial with Nancy Pelosi. I considered his multiple divorces and affairs. I considered the way he botched Clinton's impeachment. I decided he wasn't any more of a conservative than Rick Santorum.

And all you need for proof is how many more delegates, states and votes Santorum won over Newt. If Newt were such a wonderful conservative, he would have certainly outperformed Santorum. Newt was certainly better known and certainly more visible. Santorum's success only illustrates what an unelectable candidate Newt truly was. Conservatives preferred an unknown to Newt Gingrich.

49 posted on 04/13/2012 11:27:51 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Santorum’s success only illustrates what an unelectable candidate Mitt truly was.

The establishment loves mitt, hates newt.

Are you old enough to know what he did while in Congress?


51 posted on 04/13/2012 11:30:50 AM PDT by Principled
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To: OrangeHoof

Are you always this dippy? Rick LIES and his LIES against Newt is unforgivable. He only got votes because of his lies against Newt because he has NO record of his own.

Consider this - you were duped - so you already showed you are unteachable and stuck on stupid.


57 posted on 04/13/2012 11:51:32 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: OrangeHoof
Well you need the full facts

I too was angry at Newt for the DeDe fiasco. However the fault lies with the shenanigans of the New York GOP’ers native to that district. They knew she was no real GOP’er other then by registration but she was married to a local yokel (Union organizer!) who was pals with the right people. Newt was given bad information on that one. Doug Hoffman has explained this and is in no way angry at Newt.
Newt has always had a soft spot (which has sometimes led to a soft thinking !) on environmental issues. He has argued for sometime that conservatives can't just cede this political battlefield to liberals. If we do then we make the liberal cant that conservatives are pro polluted air and polluted water. Sitting on the couch with Peolosi was a stupid but well meaning attempt to demonstrate that. Newt has acknowledged that it was a dumb decision. Newt also testified in Congress against AlGore’s “Cap and Trade” schemes. Now Newt did hang on far to long with the idea of anthropogenic global warming. However he has changed his tune on that. Hey he admits he made a mistake and changes his mind with new information comes on hand. How many politicians do that publicly?
The House impeached Clinton! How was it botched?
The Senate didn't convict. If you have a beef with the result blame the right legislative body.
As far as his divorces go, his first wife divorced him and it had nothing to do with affairs. Read his daughters explanation. His second wife some people say she was a nut and a crook. They were separated for quite a few years and he met someone else. Ultimately I really don't know the bottom line there. If you are going to be anti-Gingrich then ok but does so factually not by relying on misconceptions.
Originally I was disdainful of Newt (read my past posts!) but listening to the debates. It was clear he was the only one that a) actually the understood nation's problems and b) Had viable detailed thought out solutions all within the context of our history and traditions. Everyone else with the exception of Ron Paul had variations of same-old GOP talking points we have heard for years. Economically I think we are on the brink and all you have to do is look at the Middle East and realize the explosion that's coming there. (Europe may even be on the edge!) Ron Paul's stick one’s head in the sand and saying “la la la” isn't going to changes, his policies would be ignore it all, unfortunately its not going to ignore us! Newt articulated a vision and had a plan that could not only help us ride this out, but make the necessary changes to finally shake off the remaining FDR New Deal shackles. The only other candidate who came close with that complete package was Perry but he imploded early.

62 posted on 04/13/2012 12:09:34 PM PDT by Reily
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To: OrangeHoof
BTW, the House of Representatives did, in fact, Impeach Billzo.

You probably missed that part.

89 posted on 04/14/2012 7:56:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: OrangeHoof

Exactly. You nailed it. I never bought into trying to make Newt something he isn’t. If you go back some years, his recored is awful. That is because he is a big government republican acting conservative now to try and get voters.


95 posted on 04/14/2012 10:57:04 AM PDT by dforest
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