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California Declares War on Detached Homes
New American ^ | 11 APRIL 2012 15:36 | RAVEN CLABOUGH

Posted on 04/12/2012 3:27:11 PM PDT by robowombat

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To: musicman

Hey, stop posting pictures of Bill Clinton’s childhood home! Even ex-presidents are entitled to some privacy!


41 posted on 04/12/2012 6:28:56 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: RavenLooneyToon
Settle the debt with China in full. Give them California.

They're Chinese, not stupid.

42 posted on 04/12/2012 6:31:09 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking
I think something was lost in translation. You have your basic R-1, R-2, R-3, and so forth ~ "Residential" and how many lots per acre.

Then you'll get an R-5 built as R-8, which consolidates some of the land in a development as "common land", and maybe a park with a pool or something.

But R-30?

Don't think I've ever seen that one, but I have seen FAR 1, and FAR 2, and FAR 3, and on up. That's "Floor Area Ratio", and how many acres of floor space acceptable per 1 acre of land.

With your typical house having a footprint of 24X40 to 24X60, that R-30 zoning is more likely an FAR 3, with a small setback (open land around the structures).

That'd be pretty much like what we call Garden Apartments in the Eastern States and Florida Apartments in California.

BTW, the old Florida Apartments/Condos in California have been going the way of the dodo as they are taken down and replaced with 5 story buildings with elevators and separate parking. In the East they've been taking down older 5 story walk ups and replacing them with 3 story Florida Apartments (usually called LUXURY TOWNHOMES WITH GARAGE).

Overhanging all California residential development is the need to make buildings earthquake resistant. Consequently, depending on relative distance from a slip fault (and CA has lots of slip faults ~ many beaucoup) it may or may not be feasible to build above 1 story, or maybe 2, with affordable structures.

For most of the state it's not wise to go up more than 5 stories ~ end of that story. They do go up higher, but you should see the cost!

43 posted on 04/12/2012 6:33:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: robowombat

It was either this, or control immigration.


44 posted on 04/12/2012 6:48:41 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: maine-iac7

Scotts objects.


45 posted on 04/12/2012 6:52:24 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: robowombat
Get out of California. Run, don't walk.
You definitely don't want to be... The Last White Farmer in Zimbabwe
46 posted on 04/12/2012 6:59:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: tet68

The rats have been trying to cram people into concentrated Democrat parasite nests (”cities”) for at least three decades. They just love “mass transit”. Can you imagine having to depend on those smelly city buses to go anywhere?


47 posted on 04/12/2012 7:02:56 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: robowombat

Impose it on $10 million homes in Hollywood and Malibu first, and see how that goes.


48 posted on 04/12/2012 7:09:07 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: robowombat

It’s amazing what these clowns will do to try to justify their dreams of “high speed rail”


49 posted on 04/12/2012 7:11:38 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: righttackle44
"Someone ought to have a discussion before a public forum about this matter."

Say what you will about Art Bell, George Noory and Coast-to-Coast AM, they've referenced aspects of this for years...and are usually derided as kooks.

50 posted on 04/12/2012 7:24:39 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Still Thinking

51 posted on 04/12/2012 7:28:34 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: muawiyah

California is approaching 4% development.

North Dakota is actually more developed than that.


52 posted on 04/12/2012 7:35:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

There’s a reason for that.


53 posted on 04/12/2012 7:49:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: editor-surveyor

Virginia, which has been undergoing development for a very long time, is at roughly 4%.


54 posted on 04/12/2012 7:52:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: calex59
We in the USA are supposed to own property in Fee Simple, in other words we are supposed to have full control over our own property and what we do with it, but in fact we have virtually NO control over what we do with our real estate, thanks to a**hats the embraced, and still do, zoning and land use laws.

If you think about it, we don't even OWN our property ... we rent it from the government at the cost of property taxes. If you don't pay your annual 'rent' the government can take away what you 'own.'

55 posted on 04/12/2012 8:14:14 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: robowombat

The United States is in the process of becoming the “Detroit” of nations. Obiwant is proud.


56 posted on 04/12/2012 8:27:53 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: Mears; robowombat; potlatch; PhilDragoo; bitt

We beat back an effort by our rural town government to rezone our neighborhood from half acre lots to quarter acre lots. Reason given at a public meeting: We would do better not having to mow or shovel so much.

We had been tipped off to attend the planning board meetings. It was an eyeopener, and well worth the time.


57 posted on 04/12/2012 8:37:34 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


58 posted on 04/12/2012 9:12:20 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ntnychik

I remember you telling me about that!
I can’t imagine 30 homes on one acre of land, not even if they were one room homes!! More people will be leaving California, many have come to Texas. I’ve got about 30 miles of mostly unpopulated land in all directions from my town to the next town.

I once had a map that showed the vast unpopulated areas of the United States. I could probably find it on Google again.


59 posted on 04/12/2012 9:19:02 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: musicman

ahahah - I remember this pic. I love it.

HOWEVER, let’s not get that around - the Agenda 21 folk just might think that’s the ticket...


60 posted on 04/12/2012 9:31:31 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("If you bought it - a truck brought it" - and because of the price of gas/it costs more.)
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