Commentary: Glenn Beck's Oval Office {Beck going all in for Mitt?]

Star-Telegram ^ | April 12, 2012 | Bud Kennedy

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Actually, it is irrationale, but it doesn’t sound as if you’ve thought the issues through. In any case I wish you the best.

[sand lake bar]

Seriously, I’ve thought it through for dozens of years. How could God be less merciful, less forgiving than man?

[sand lake bar]

I don’t think so. But to each his own. My God is more merciful than I am. Otherwise, why would I believe in him?

[svcw]

There is being with God for eternity or being separated from God for eternity - the choice is yours and yours alone. My God has been merciful and willingly sacrificed His Son who took my sin upon Him that I might dwell in God's Glory for eternaty.

[ansel12]

"Why would we expect God to be less merciful than man?" "How could God be less merciful, less forgiving than man?"

You keep repeating that (or it's variation) what is that supposed to mean, is there a "man"? Which man, what man?

[Elsie]

Jesus, I believe spoke metaphorically. There is no pit of fire.

Oh?

And what do the 'scholarly studies' tell us?

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http://www.google.com/search?q=jesus+spoke+of+hell&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475

[Elsie]

Jesus, I believe spoke metaphorically. There is no pit of fire.

  Revelation 22:19 
 
And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in  this book.

 

 

Oops!

Revelation 19:20: And the beast^[5] was taken, and with him the false prophet^[6] that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 20:14-15 Then Death and Hades^[7] were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.^[8]

 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_of_fire

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SLB; you'd better hope that JOHN wrote metaphorically; too!

[Elsie]

To put a finer point on it, I do not believe that a wise and loving “savior” or a wise and loving God would ever condemn people to hell based on some technicality of religious belief.

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Romans 14:22
So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves.

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John 3:16-18

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

 

 

So I guess that John was just trying to be a bigot and a demagog.

[Elsie]

I think your head would explode it it ever held an independent or original thought.

"When the Prophet speaks; the thinking has been done."

http://www.mormonstudies.net/html/misc_author/thinking_done.html

[Elsie]

How do you know he actually said that? How do you know he meant it in the way you’ve interpreted it?

In like manner...

How do you know he DIDN'T actually said that? How do you know he meant it in the way you’ve 'believe' it 'should' be?

[Elsie]

I don’t think so. But to each his own. My God is more merciful than I am. Otherwise, why would I believe in him?

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

(It would sure SUCK to be a Salt Lake City MORMON, and have THIS prophet's words hanging over your head! I guess they would have to 'believe' that BY was wrong; or perhaps speaking metaphorically.)

[sand lake bar]

Your cite refers to the book of Revelation alone. Regardless, why should one believe it is the “word of God?” The Gospel of John was written long after Christ and no one is precisely sure who wrote it.

And again, how is it possible that a power capable of creating the universe, create life, create human beings, etc. - a power with the wisdom of eternity - condemn people to flaming hell for, essentially, picking the wrong door on Let’s Make a Deal?

[Invincibly Ignorant]

LOL. Oh, yes, you sure told me.

Ya because that's what I was bound and determined to do. (eyes roll)

I read all kinds of threads, thanks.

Well then if you read other threads you'd be honest and admit there are right wingers whom think those that spew anti Mormonism rhetoric on FR are bigoted. It's a fact. You are just simply wrong.

And that has nothing to do with the fact that any doctrine which contradicts the word of God is, by definition, false. Now, coming from where you are, I don’t expect you to understand. That’s OK.

I probably understand as well or even more than you do. I just don't agree with what you accept as being "the Word of God."

May I ask, though-—are you a Mormon?

Certainly. No. They actually accept NT writings as holy writ.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Wouldn't that be a demotion for you?

Thank you. Didn't realize you thought so highly of me. lol.

[rockabyebaby]

BS baby. I listened to Beck over many months and he was in the tank with Romney. You can peruse all the recent Beck threads where you'll find that numerous posters have come to the same conclusion.

LMAO, suuuuuuurrrrrrrrreeeeeeeee, Beck has always been in the tank for Romney, LMAO, he mocks him constantly, I don't know what Beck programs you're listening to but the ones I listen to have him and his crew constantly mocking Romney, I guess some of us listen more closely than others. The "numerous" posters are the ones who can't stand Beck, the ones who think he's crazy, so it's not surprising they would come to the conclusion that Beck is in the tank for Romney.

Beck has tanked on his radio show in my market that as of this week, he was taken off the air on KVOR and was replaced with with Huckabee's new show. And before that, Beck's time slot was switched with Mark Levin to give Levin the better time slot since his show is better and does better than Beck's show. It's been all downhill for Beck in this conservative area market.

Hmmm, so when Levin is taken off a particular station or hannity or someone else I guess we can conclude that it's all downhill for them as well.

[Nanny7]

Your characterization of me is inaccurate. I’ve been honest with you and for my part, this discussion is over.

[svcw]

You need to go back and read what you wrote.

[Elsie]

...how is it possible...

The Golden Rule.

I guess YOUR 'clay' is not to be shaped by the Potter; eh?

MY thoughts are not YOUR thoughts?

MY ways are not YOUR ways?

[Elsie]

Regardless, why should one believe it is the “word of God?”

Damned if I know!!!

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Revelation 1
 
1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place.

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10 On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,

11 which said: “Write on a scroll what you see ....

[Elsie]

...you'd be honest...

II!

From YOU???