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To: ArmstedFragg

Self-defense is not “unlawful killing”, so to have a prayer of proving 2nd degree murder they’d have to prove that Z wasn’t acting in self-defense. And they’d have to have something to refute the 911 call, the testimony of all the witnesses, and Zimmerman’s injuries.

I don’t know what evidence would be able to do that.


265 posted on 04/11/2012 5:34:27 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Self-defense is not “unlawful killing”, so to have a prayer of proving 2nd degree murder they’d have to prove that Z wasn’t acting in self-defense. And they’d have to have something to refute the 911 call, the testimony of all the witnesses, and Zimmerman’s injuries. I don’t know what evidence would be able to do that.

Which makes me think that all of this "justice for Trayvon" talk from the prosecution is cynical anti-riot insurance.

For all their talk about "murder", I am certain that they will offer the jury the option to convict for involuntary manslaughter, which is what they are hoping for all along.

271 posted on 04/11/2012 5:41:26 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: butterdezillion

Self defense is an affirmative defense. If the defendant doesn’t assert it, and the deceased wasn’t executed by the state, his death is presumed to be unlawful.


272 posted on 04/11/2012 5:42:00 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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