“Simple - the old people, even on this site, are not willing to LIFT A FINGER to try to pay for what they demand from the government (i.e., Social Security and Medicare”
HMMMM I think I lifted many fingers since I was 15 years old paying into this social security system, mainly at the rate of 15% of my income because I was self employed. I resent your arrogance and assumption that you are right because you are “young” and have kids.
As far as I’m concerned the government took 15% of my money by force, promised me that I would have a return on MY money in my “old age” and then they stole MY money and spent it on who knows what. Now they want to make their theft my fault and turn us against each other and they’ve even convinced you to turn against the aged because of it!
Very well said.
Oh come on tina...So the government took tens of thousands or more from your income over the decades...Like Bob said, just forget it, and plan on working until you drop dead.
Don’t be so greedy tina.
And keep paying those government taxes to support those lottery style government retirement pensions and their top shelf benefits.
Back to work!
“As far as I’m concerned the government took 15% of my money by force, promised me that I would have a return on MY money in my “old age” and then they stole MY money and spent it on who knows what. Now they want to make their theft my fault and turn us against each other and they’ve even convinced you to turn against the aged because of it!”
No, it was NO SECRET that there was no Social Security Trust Fund. Everyone knew for DECADES that the money was being spent as it came in. So the older people got their (relatively) low taxes while they worked and also got a very nice level of government services. And everyone knew that “the government” was not going to pay them back - they KNEW it was future generations of Americans. Not too good.
But they took it further. Now they’re STRANGLING my kids (and future grand kids) with TRILLIONS of dollars in debt before they even enter the work force. I simply don’t like it.
And while it’s true that older conservatives may not have liked the way the money was spent for the past decades, they at least could do something about it (i.e., run for office, donate to candidates and causes, etc.) - while my kids never had that chance.