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To: PapaBear3625
Waglist - Evidence that Trayvon Martin Doubled Back

I guess waglist can't get where GZ's location was from the first encounter. Note that thay say GZ was parked at 'C' location.

Which is quite the opposite from the 911 tape where GZ says:

Zimmerman: We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.

This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about.

*Martin walks near Zimmerman's SUV as he heads towards the clubhouse.

Here is where Zimmerman says: “Now he’s coming towards me.”

dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?

**At this point when Zimmerman answers "yeah" On the call, you can hear Zimmerman's rustling, and perhaps he’s twisting his body around to look out the back of the SUV.

ZIMMERMAN : "Yeah, a dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. He wore jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now … he’s just staring."

This is where Martin stops in front of the club­house and stares at the vehicle.

If Zim­mer­man was always parked at 'C' TWIN TREES location, then he couldn’t have seen Mar­tin walking towards the clubhouse while “wan­der­ing around, look­ing at all the houses” as he said prior. He wouldn't have seen TM until he was already at the clubhouse. GZ must have driven to reach his final parking position by (either turning around or backing up) - and in doing so, followed TM by car as well as on foot.


125 posted on 04/09/2012 11:17:09 AM PDT by anglian
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A simmple question from Weird Guy to Martin and perhaps a statement explaining that he was Neighborhood Watchman, would have been suffice when first encountering Martin.

But Wierd guy calls 911 instead, as he noticed Martin was walking down Retreat View heading towards the clubhouse. Martin noticed Weird Guy staring at him from a vehicle which was sitting at the intersection of Retreat View Circle and Twin Trees.

Martin was at the clubhouse under the canopy being stared at by Weird Guy then left.

Weird Guy then chose either to turn around or back up to then follow down Twin Trees using his vehicle. Martin notices Weird Guy is now following him and starts to run.

After parking at curve on Twin Trees. Weird Guy then chose to exit his vehicle leaving his keys in the ignition and follow on foot, all the while ignoring the dispatcher, ignoring the Neighborhood Watch guidlines outlined in his manual, ignoring Wendy Dorival, the police officer who coordinated his neighborhood watch program and everything she had told him in September 2011. Added up = Stuck-on-Stupid.

I wouldn't be suprised if Weird Guy didn't learn anything from his mandatory anger-management counseling either, as he certainly appears on tape to gradually getting more frustrated and angry. Add some fear to the equation = Heat-of-Passion.

Armed + Stuck-on-Stupid + Heat-of-Passion = A deadly combination.

I'm sure anyones run-in with this guy at that moment could have ended in a similar situation. Or the Stuck-on-Stupid Weird Guy's injuries would have required much more than just a few minutes of SFD's treatment in the back seat of a squad car.

126 posted on 04/09/2012 11:41:10 AM PDT by anglian
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To: anglian
If Zim­mer­man was always parked at 'C' TWIN TREES location, then he couldn’t have seen Mar­tin walking towards the clubhouse while “wan­der­ing around, look­ing at all the houses” as he said prior.

Aren't you making assumptions about which houses Martin was wandering around and from which direction he approached the clubhouse?

So where are you getting those nifty yellow bubbles with times and addresses for where Martin was at different times? What's your source?

138 posted on 04/09/2012 6:36:11 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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