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To: Tex-Con-Man; Danae; LucyT
You're all over the map, here.

"Nicely Done. *snip*

"The lineage of the Commander-in-Chief is worthy of serious discussion, and should not be relegated to Pravda or Prison Planet.

Boy, if that's not a backhanded compliment, I don't know what is. And you're comparing Pravda, which is not any worse/sensational than say, the New York Post, with Prison Planet? Really?

"Your 'Minor' crusade is not enhanced by the BC forgery accusations. Quite the contrary."

Revelations of forgery do nothing to detract from the two-citizen parent argument whatsoever. IF "Obama" is telling the truth and his father is the foreign student Barack Hussein Obama Sr. then he's unqualified, but the forgery points up possible birth abroad also, which would make Barry doubly ineligible, both via Jus Soli and Jus Sanguinis. Or he could be somehow a NBC of some other lineage, in which case he's qualified but his entire life's narrative is shown to be a fraud.

And then you go straight into this:

"The basic facts of Obama’s birth relevant to his NBC status are generally agreed upon by both sides. Dad was a Kenyan."

What? That's a textbook example of argumentum ad populum. So are you saying the findings of Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse are of no value? Barry claims that he was born in Hawaii and that Dad was a Kenyan. No definitive proof of either has been offered to date, one way or the other. As has been said many times by others: These are not the actions of an honest man.

Once more on this: "The lineage of the Commander-in-Chief is worthy of serious discussion, . . ."

What do you even mean by that statement? Do you really believe it to be worthy of serious discussion? In what way?

"JMO... worth what you paid for it."

Well, at least that last was honest.

Another great offering, Danae. And to LucyT:


16 posted on 04/08/2012 1:47:01 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
And you're comparing Pravda, which is not any worse/sensational than say, the New York Post, with Prison Planet? Really?

Maybe I missed the New York Post 9/11 truther cheerleading section...

PRAVDA - 9/11: 10 years on - Is the world a safer place?

The hard evidence linking bin Laden and therefore Afghanistan to 9/11 is as yet non-existent and as has become the norm in the last ten years, is based upon hearsay, as credible sources have descended to the “someone said they heard the baker's wife saying...” level. Indeed, back in 1998, Mullah Mohammed Omar stated in an interview to Dawn newspaper that the USA had offered 5 billion USD for a pipeline to be built across his country from Central Asia through to Pakistan and that when he refused, he heard the clock ticking. Three years later, with Rumsfeld and Cheney hiding behind Bush...

The years that have followed show us that the western leaders cannot be trusted as time and time again they delivered a tissue of lies without even blinking or blushing, the last decade has shown us we cannot trust the western "mainstream" media to deliver the truth. They, and the politicians they quote, are no more than the marketing department selling the product the lobbies wish to sell, or rather steal.

PRAVDA - September 11 Attacks: The Greatest Fraud of the 21st Century

How could huge steel columns smelt because of the kerosene, the burning point of which is four times as low as the smelting point of steel? About a dozen of cargo planes loaded with white phosphorous should have slammed into each of the two towers to make them collapse like a house of cards. Or the buildings should have been previously mined.

The mysterious details of the terrorist acts set off speculation about the possible participation of US top officials in the attacks, who used them to reach their political goals.

If it is true it only means that US strategists had not thought of anything new. Roman Emperor Nero set Rome on fire to blame Christians for that. Hitler set Reichstag ablaze to lay the blame for it on his adversaries.

PRAVDA - American radio icon Don Imus disgraced, fired after threat to reveal 9/11 secrets

In a clear sign of its intent to reign in dissident American media personalities, and their growing influence in American culture, US War Leaders this past week launched an unprecedented attack upon one of their most politically ‘connected’, and legendary, radio hosts named Don Imus after his threats to release information relating to the September 11, 2001 attacks upon that country.

But, to the US War Leaders, Don Imus represented the most serious threat, to date, of the growing assault against them by America's media personalities threatening to expose the truths behind the events of September 11, 2001 and the Iraq/Afghanistan Wars; and to such an extent that another American media personality, Rosie O'Donnell, has expressed concern that US Military Leaders could actually imprison Mr. Imus.

From our past research of the tactics used against those threatening America's War Leaders, the likelihood of imprisonment for Don Imus would only occur should he persist in his threats to undermine their authority, and which appears, at this time, unlikely after the public disgrace he has had to endure.

To the American people themselves their remains no evidence that they know, much less care, about the dire state of their once Free Nation.

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PRAVDA provides a forum for the 9/11 truthers to offer even more explosive inside information...

http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/topic/243438-ron-paul-bush-boys-were-happy-after-911/

Such thinking has made Ron Paul a political threat not only to GOP candidates but also to Barack Obama and Israel. Due to his independent and nationalist agenda - there are rumors floating in the press that Ron Paul’s life is threatened (reported by Veterans Today, December 4, 2011) by Newt Gingrich camp and their Israeli backers, based on Newt’s private promise of a full scale invasion of the Islamic Republic.

http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/topic/239174-israel-did-the-911/

QUESTION: Who leased the World Trade Center (WTC) only seven weeks before the 9/11 attacks?

ANSWER: Larry Silverstein who explained his reason for buying the towers as follows: “I felt a compelling urge to own them.” Silverstein generally had breakfast in the WTC’s “Windows on the World” restaurant every single morning. But on the morning of 9/11, he never showed up — nor did his daughter, who worked in WTC Building 7

http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/topic/247084-jewish-nyc-mayor-still-believes-official-911-story/

New York City billionaire Jewish Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended NYPD surveillance of Muslims who travel between the Big Apple and nearby New Jersey, whose governor has lambasted the controversial scheme.

“A lot of the World Trade Center terrorists that took 3,000 people went back and forth to New Jersey,” said Bloomberg, referring to the September 11 attacks in New York more than 10 years ago.

Bloomberg is wrong on both accounts. First the official death toll is 2,846 – And sceond hundreds of Jewish and Christian scientists, academic and political leaders have refused to believe the official story of 19 Muslim hijacker laced with knife cutters hijacked four commercial planes and slammed two into WTC and one into the Pentagon.

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And just like birthers are doing now, the 9/11 truther bloggers use PRAVDA to help bolster their own credibility...

http://911blogger.com/node/7898

Russian Pravda: 9/11 was an inside job

Indict all of the US government officials and their allies who planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks

A preponderance of evidence shows that the highest officials of the Bush Administration, in collusion with many other officials from the Pentagon, CIA, FBI, FEMA, NSA, NORAD, New York City officials, air-traffic contollers, airline executives, controlled demolitions experts, computer graphics technicians, media executives, and others (OH LOOK!!! Truthers have their own expansive, implausible list of collaborators, including media, involved in the massive cover-up!!!!!!) together planned and committed the horrible attacks of 9/11/2001 against the Pentagon and the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City. The 9/11 attacks were immediately blamed on some bogus ‘Arab highjackers’, a half dozen of whom were later confirmed to be still alive, and therefore innocent, after the 9/11 attacks.

http://911blogger.com/node/7898

Pravda publishes story claiming Imus was fired for threatening to reveal the truth about 9/11

Pravda has published a story, available online, claiming that radio personality Don Imus was fired because he had threatened to release the “secrets” of 9/11 on-air

And ironically enough, not even infowars/Prison Planet/Alex Jones fell for the PRAVDA Imus story...

"As of early Monday afternoon, Drudge still carried a headline entitled, 'Pravda: Imus fired after threat to reveal 9/11 secrets' - which links to the Pravda website reprint of an article written by "Sorcha Faal," who runs a website which also claims that Turkey has shot down a U.S. warplane, that Vladimir Putin is responsible for a 70% reduction in the population of bees across the U.S., and also solicits donations on behalf of the "Sisters of the Order" under the pretense of saving the earth from cosmic destruction."
(I won't offer a link because it's on the infowars website, but you can google it using Don Imus, 9/11.)

The birthers tried to rehabilitate Trump because he said something they wanted to hear, and now they're trying to do the same with PRAVDA.

18 posted on 04/08/2012 9:26:20 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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