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Conservatives ally for a reset of election expectations (RINOs: we shouldn't seek conservatives)
The Washington Times ^ | 4/4/2012 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 04/06/2012 11:21:33 AM PDT by darrellmaurina

Some influential conservative thinkers have concluded that Mitt Romney’s struggle to ignite voter enthusiasm reflects a more serious problem for Republicans in setting unrealistic expectations for their presidential nominee. Calling their alliance Project Liberty, the newly formed group says the former Massachusetts governor cannot beat President Obama unless tea party members and the GOP’s activists — including conservatives on the Republican National Committee — adjust their mindset about insisting on a fully formed, ideologically reliable candidate as their standard-bearer.... Project Liberty backers have concluded that Mr. Romney will not win the White House on the basis of something he is not — a 21st century American philosopher-king. Nor will he win the presidency unless the right’s various interest groups, from tea party activists to RNC conservatives, unite. The right’s unrealistic search for the knight in shining armor helps explain the rise and fall of a string of challengers to Mr. Romney in the nomination merry-go-round this year. Project Liberty’s founders also say that longing explains why tea partyers split their vote about evenly between Mr. Romney and Rick Santorum in the Illinois primary, late in the primary season.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gingrich; romney; santorum; votemittgetobama
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To: andy58-in-nh
The essential problem with doing what many of us are sorely tempted to do (sit it out)...

Beware your presumptions. I don't know too many who are planning to sit it out. We will definitely vote down-ticket, and many will vote 3rd party for the presidency.

61 posted on 04/06/2012 1:13:48 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Romney may not be precisely inclined to support "strict constructionists", but Obama will certainly appoint radicals.

Not buying it. If you want to get a glimpse of the kinds of Justices a President Romney would appoint, look at the judges Governor Romney appointed. And an energized Republican-led Senate would not let Obama get away with much.

62 posted on 04/06/2012 1:16:53 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I am thinking more along the lines of that queasy industrial blue that Lightworker Hussein is so fond of. Either way . . . blechh!


63 posted on 04/06/2012 1:17:08 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to support Willard. He is what he is.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

“Even if you doubt that might happen, consider this: we are one Supreme Court justice away from a radical and permanent alteration of the Constitution from a doctrine of limited government to a tool of social democracy.”

Just say no. Like at Saratoga, King’s Mountain and Yorktown. Grow a backbone, instead of settling for the scraps that roll off of Karl Rove’s greasy chins.


64 posted on 04/06/2012 1:21:49 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to support Willard. He is what he is.)
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To: COBOL2Java

My primary reason for voting will be to replace Debbie Stabenow. As far as Romney is concerned, his chances are worse than John McCain’s were.

If the nose holders really want to take the white house, their best bet is to join us and force the GOP to fix this even if it means forcing Romney out.


65 posted on 04/06/2012 1:22:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Psalm 144

Pink... as in a lighter shade of RED... as in communist red.

LLS


66 posted on 04/06/2012 1:23:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: darrellmaurina
Very interesting read. Thanks for the link.

It's dumbfounding how far out in left field (no pun intended) the players are. They just can't understand it -- such a mystery! How to get conservatives to gather 'round Romney? I know! Get them to lower their expectations!

Yeah, surely they'll see the sense of it! *rolls eyes*

The comments are interesting, too. It's as if the question is only, "Well, Romney isn't perfect, but ..."

PERFECT? Say what?

Criticizing conservatives for rejecting Romney because he isn't "perfect" is like criticizing a professional horse jockey for rejecting a Shetland Pony because it's not "perfect."

Romney in the White House would be there as a result of panic, desperation, and fear. The strategy of victims and losers.

The only way to save our freedom is through courage -- including the courage to face down another four years of a weakened, fractured, despised Obama elected by a plurality -- that is, rejected by the majority. "The sky is falling!" Chicken Littles are so busy looking at what they're running from, Obama, that they are missing entirely the chasm they're running toward.

Romney was bad news in the '90s. Romney was bad news in 2008. And Romney is bad news now. Voting for Romney is voting for the Republican party to surrender to liberalism, disarming Repubicans' ability to fight liberal policies. Romney would, guaranteed, make liberalism stronger in both parties.

Desperation, panic, and fear would elect someone every bit as bad as Obama and weaken our ability to fight liberalism while it was at it.

Godspeed Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, and all limited government conservatives.

67 posted on 04/06/2012 1:24:43 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent (By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.))
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To: LibLieSlayer
we are more than willing to accept extremely flawed candidates such as Santorum and Gingrich. romney is a socialist

Exactly. No one's expecting 100% perfection. 90%...75%...close enough. Just not someone who has a liberal record on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE.

68 posted on 04/06/2012 1:29:20 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: LibLieSlayer

OK you win, lol!


69 posted on 04/06/2012 1:31:45 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to support Willard. He is what he is.)
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To: dila813

Oh, I’ll vote for him, if it’s him or O.

I won’t lift a finger to help him, though.


70 posted on 04/06/2012 1:32:58 PM PDT by gogeo (I didn't leave the Republcan Party, it left me.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
I dislike Romney but I will not vote to support the destruction my country. What is the addy to contribute to Ovide.
71 posted on 04/06/2012 1:35:13 PM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: Redleg Duke; All
I'll take that as a "Yes, I am gonna send the GOP a strong message and screw my children and grandchildren at the same time 'cause I didn't get my way...so there....spit!"

Then, Regleg, I'll take you are sending a strong message to surrender the Republican party to liberalism wholesale and screw America, your kids, and grandkids at the same time, rather than stand and fight liberalism.

72 posted on 04/06/2012 1:38:07 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent (By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.))
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To: Finny

Superb post!


73 posted on 04/06/2012 1:43:18 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to support Willard. He is what he is.)
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To: Psalm 144

Hee hee :-)

LLS


74 posted on 04/06/2012 1:48:29 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: andy58-in-nh; Little Bill; Redleg Duke; Finny; All

“The essential problem with doing what many of us are sorely tempted to do (sit it out) is that Obama is not likely to be a “lame-duck” anything. He is unlike any President we have ever had, and the full weight of the organized Left is poised to move hard and fast behind him if he is re-elected. They mean business this time, and by “business” I mean a power grab beyond imagining, facilitated by a planned insurrection.
Even if you doubt that might happen, consider this: we are one Supreme Court justice away from a radical and permanent alteration of the Constitution from a doctrine of limited government to a tool of social democracy. Romney may not be precisely inclined to support “strict constructionists”, but Obama will certainly appoint radicals. “

I’ve voted for R’s that I agreed with less and less over the years, because I hoped they wouldn’t be as bad as the D’s. Some were.

Now the establishment thinks they can put one up who is clearly as bad as the D, and scare us into voting for him by saying the judges he would appoint might not be as bad as the ones Obama would appoint?

We can look at his record and judges, and see that they are and would be as bad.

Talk is cheap for politicians at election time.

They want conservatives to rally behind Romney because of his words?

There isn’t ANYTHING he can say that would make me vote for him.

They want my vote?

They should have paid attention before they took out the conservative candidates.

I hope Newt wins.

I’d settle for Santorum.

I won’t vote for Mitt.


75 posted on 04/06/2012 1:54:22 PM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: JediJones

50% would be 50% better than mitt!

LLS


76 posted on 04/06/2012 1:55:00 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: darrellmaurina
Conservatives ally for a reset of election expectations

If these guys are Conservatives then there is no hope for the GOP.

This should make it obvious to all those here, that you never really had any voice in who was going to be the nominee.

77 posted on 04/06/2012 1:56:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are most of my comments.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
The essential problem with doing what many of us are sorely tempted to do (sit it out) is that Obama is not likely to be a "lame-duck" anything.

The essential cause of Obama not likely to be a lame-duck anything would be if many of us sat out the election rather than actively vote ABOOR with the goal of making the winner have the smallest plurality possible. Maybe we couldn't survive, as the Chicken Littles claim, another four years of Obama, but maybe we could, especially if the conservative side of the Republican party grows stronger.

One thing for sure: the Republican party would die if its most powerful representative advanced and defended nationalized health care, on-demand tax-funded abortion, forced acceptance of open homosexuality throughout society, and cap-and-trade "save the planet" environmental regulation. Regardless of wishful thinking that Romney might come around (liberals are so good at that! NOT!) it's what anyone who votes FOR Romney, would be authorizing the Republican party TO DO.

That is a losing proposition, period. Guaranteed.

Regardless of what picture the MSM presents, at least half, likely much more, of productive Americans think Obama's a crappy president and think statist liberalism stinks. If enough people vote ABOOR (anbody but Obama or Romney), whichever socialist who won would have a plurality; assessing Romney, I'd prefer Obama won with, say, 40 percent of the vote (unless a really good 3rd party candidate, like Palin or Newt, jumped in -- there'd be zero to lose and everything to gain -- no guts, no glory). A president opposed by the majority of actual voters would be weakened politically.

As for the SC, look at Romney's record. Thinking he'd appoint anything other than an activist liberal mindset is wishful thinking.

78 posted on 04/06/2012 2:01:40 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent (By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.))
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To: gogeo

I think I am voting for Daffy Duck, personally.....


79 posted on 04/06/2012 2:03:11 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Psalm 144
Just say no. Like at Saratoga, King’s Mountain and Yorktown. Grow a backbone, instead of settling for the scraps that roll off of Karl Rove’s greasy chins.

Amen!

"Nuts!"

80 posted on 04/06/2012 2:05:32 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent (By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.))
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