Posted on 04/06/2012 10:54:37 AM PDT by no dems
Another FReeper, in another posted comment, just this week, stated that his Mormon neighbor was obsessed with getting a Mormon, Mitt Romney, elected President of the United States. That statement has "stuck in my craw" ever since I read it; which begs to question:
If Mitt Romney is the GOP Nominee for POTUS, will the 14 million Mormons in the U.S. mobilize for him during the General Election? Hmmmmm....... Just wondering. The Mormon Church not only has a lot of "foot soldiers", but they know how to "mobilize". They've done it for decades.
Do not underestimate RINO-Rom in the GE. He's hungry. He's been running for the White House for 6 years. He, and the LDS Church have mega bucks. The Marriott Hotel Chain, for example, is a Mormon corporation; just to name one. And, the Primary season proved he will stoop to anything to win. Unlike McCain, he just might be capable of getting as "down and dirty" as the DemocRATS. And, I must say, it's kinda refreshing to see a Pubbie who will not bend over for the street-wise Dems like most Republicans do. Maybe there are some 'nads inside the "Magic Underwear".
I too was a political activist in my younger days. In fact, I recall when 95 percent of those who voted for Clinton the first time told me they would not vote to re-elect him. Yet somehow he was re-elected.
Since your name is “no dems”, if Romney is the Republican nominee, isn’t it a GOOD thing if the Mormons mobilize to help Romney beat Obama, the democrat?
Ever wonder why they put a word in quotes?
Are you aware that leftists are quoting Brigham Young in their attacks on Romney.. you must be because you reference NBC. Romney will be explaining some things to his lefty critics.
Mean while..
When Mitt bragged how his dad George Romney walked out of the 1964 convention -- along with the other Rockefeller Republicans -- to protest Barry Goldwater's racism there were no quotes used to bracket racism. (Though I heard a recoding of Mitt telling the story, I have not seen his text of the story.)
Rockefeller, Scranton, Romney, et al. backed the liberals' lies that Goldwater and us Goldwater supporters were racists (w/o the quotes). My point: it's get even time. But I will of course vote for Romney.
Romney’s style of vigorously attacking his primary opponents are unlikely to work against Obama for three reasons:
1 - How can Romney attack Obama with sincerity or conviction when Romney’s politics and policies as governor of Massachusetts are basis for Obama’s?
2 - Obama not only survived the Clinton slime machine, he turned Hollywood and the MSM against the Clinton’s.
3 - Romney is culturally tone-deaf.
Did they mobilize for Harry Reid?
I love how they tell us they’re perfectly normal, just like any other Christians, but then show a massive bias and favoritism to one of their own. If they’re no different than other Christians, then what is so special about their Mormon candidate over any other Christian? Note that you don’t see Catholics or evangelicals block voting just for candidates of their faith, because they genuinely are mainstream people with mainstream, traditional, American beliefs. When you have 98% of the Mormons voting as a block for the Mormon candidate, they’re telling us they see themselves as different from the rest of us, which tells me that they ARE different from the rest of us.
One of the very foundations of mormonism teaches racism, for you to say you know of none is well......a stretch.
Maybe I should have you talk to my uncle the bishop......
We've been discussing this on some other threads. I'm passing on some of the sections of the BOM to a buddy of mine who's black.
He's not aware of the actual text so I've asked him to read the excepts and then read the BOM to verify the context of the quotes. I've asked him to let me know if I'm overreacting to what my son and I have learned in attempting to learn more about their "faith".
He's pretty much a genius so I'm betting he'll read the whole book before he gets back to me. He's brilliant at digesting and processing facts. I'm deeply interested in hearing his response on all of this.
I can ping you when he lets me know.
Yes, please.
Who cares? One way or the other, it's Obamney. Whoever wins, conservatives lose. The long-term damage of a Romney candidacy is probably greater than 4 more years of Obama. If the GOP succeeds with a liberal, that's where they're going to move and that's all we're going to get for as long as they can control the party. If they fail after Newt and Rick explicitly said time and again that a moderate candidate would, conservatives should get a big boost in credibility in 2014 and 2016.
Obama’s people won’t have to address Romney’s Mormonism. This will be done by horrified black Conservatives who supported Bush, as well as Texas conservatives who don’t like having to pay $20 million for the cleanup of Utah’s FLDS mess, not to mention Christians still sore about the Romney people’s take-down of Sarah Palin during the final days of the 2008 election. Hatch is right to anticipate Romney’s faith becoming an issue this election. But it won’t be from the Dems.
“And, the Primary season proved he will stoop to anything to win. Unlike McCain, he just might be capable of getting as “down and dirty” as the DemocRATS.”
My biggest fear about Romney, all along, is that I feared he didn’t have the stones to do what is going to be required to defeat Obama, the Media, and the whackjob internet left. It’s why my pocket has been supporting Gingrich.
But, in the last month or so, I have been cautiously hopeful that Mr. Nice Guy has it in him to go there.
“CAN MITT ROMNEY SERVE TWO MASTERS?”
And yet, know one asks, “CAN OBAMA SERVE HIS TWO MASTERS?” Karl Marx and Allah?
>> Most ex-Mormons who I know will not vote for Romney under any circumstance, including Obama seeking re-election.
> Why? The religion, the liberalism or the man? Just curious.
The religion first and foremost, and secondly the fact Mitt cannot be divorced from it. Mormonism is Romney’s core. This is in contrast to Huntsman, who some ex-Mormons give a pass to, arguing Huntsman is Mormon in the same way Nancy Pelosi is Catholic.
Of course the ex-Mormons who are now Christian (many are atheist or agnostic) also will not vote for Romney because of his liberalism, whereas those who became atheist/agnostic tend to be Democrat and won’t vote for Romney because of his perceived social conservatism.
This race reminds me an aweful lot of a Canadian election that took place in the province of Ontario about five years ago. Ontario had been run by a real conservative (Mike Harris) who went soft in his last few years (like GW Bush), and left office early during his second term to be replaced by Ernie Eves, a CINO whose reputation among grass-roots conservatives was not unlike McCain’s. Of course Eves lost the election to an Obama-esque liberal with a Nancy Pelosi personality named Dalton McGuinty, who proceeded to destroy the province in much the same way that Obama has done the U.S.
McGuinty was extremely unpopular come election time.
Yet the Red Tories (aka Rich Establishment Republicans) seized the Conservative Party machinery to run John Tory - an extremely wealthy, anti-social conservative and anti-gun rights, big business patsy from the province’s most liberal area. The guy was completely out of touch with the middle class, as well as the conservative base, gun owners, and Christians. He had worked hard to marginalize and diminish their influence in the party. His thinking and that of the party establishment was as follows: McGuinty was so far to the left and so unpopular that come the election, conservatives would have no choice but to swallow hard and vote for John Tory as the only alternative to McGuinty. Of course the Red Tory establishment put John Tory forward as the only candidate that was “electable”, “moderate” - and cited heavily his corporate experience as proof he could manage the province.
What actually happened during the election is that most conservatives stayed home, or voted fourth party. McGuinty was re-elected, but grass-roots conservatives were then able to take the party back from the Red Tory establishment.
SLC’s billions will be canceled out by Hollywood’s billions for Obama.
A second term for Obama loses its threat or meaningfulness among conservatives when the Republican alternative is no different. What has Obama done as president that Romney did not already do as governor of Massachusetts?
You’re right, we should just give up and wait ‘till 2016.
I admire your sunny optimism no end.
At the presidential level, yes. However, there is still much conservatives can do this election as far as activism and donations are concerned:
1 - Support conservative candidates down ballot who have a shot of winning local, county, state or federal office.
2 - At the presidential level, a vote for a third party or write-in candidate at least sends a message that you are not satisfied with choosing Romney vs. Obama.
3 - Educate other like-minded voters on the important of not choosing between “the lesser of two evils” but standing true to one’s principles.
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