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New data support Einstein on accelerating universe
Science News ^ | 2/2/2012 | Elizabeth Quill

Posted on 04/03/2012 1:00:38 AM PDT by U-238

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To: rurgan

Use Scientific Method.


21 posted on 04/03/2012 2:07:06 AM PDT by U-238
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To: U-238

Einstein is mostly right.


22 posted on 04/03/2012 2:07:19 AM PDT by allmost
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To: James C. Bennett
Black Holes emit radiation. Why does Dark Matter not do it?

Here's a good article on the subject of Hawking Radiation (Black Hole radiation).

http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Hawking_radiation

23 posted on 04/03/2012 2:09:12 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: U-238

Science like global warming fake science is mostly funded by governments . So they make all these “intriguing” sounding theories like string theory and other ridiculous theories to get a millions in government grants. That’s a good days work , write up a theory and get a million dollar grant. I don’t buy any of it.


24 posted on 04/03/2012 2:10:04 AM PDT by rurgan (Make all laws have an expiration date of 3 years. too many laws is the problem)
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To: rurgan

25 posted on 04/03/2012 2:10:11 AM PDT by U-238
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To: ETL

That is a good article.


26 posted on 04/03/2012 2:13:21 AM PDT by U-238
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To: U-238
liberal scientist proposes theory = a million dollar government grant.

that's the real equation.

Scientists have even said that CO2 is a pollutant . and that global warming is destroying the planet and they backed this up with decades of government funded research. One problem with all this research and theories : IT'S ALL FAKE AND HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE FAKE.

These morons make no sense. Some theories even say that there are trillions of alternate universes etc. And that scientist is set for life, all of them are working in universities and have to do this “research” to retain their jobs and get government grants. How many theories are out there that have not been pron?

27 posted on 04/03/2012 2:16:21 AM PDT by rurgan (Make all laws have an expiration date of 3 years. too many laws is the problem)
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To: rurgan
Science like global warming fake science is mostly funded by governments . So they make all these “intriguing” sounding theories like string theory and other ridiculous theories to get a millions in government grants.

Don't confuse bogus "science" like man-made global warming with legit science. That is not to say there aren't a lot of far-fetched theories out there in the field of cosmology.

28 posted on 04/03/2012 2:19:05 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Good Point


29 posted on 04/03/2012 2:19:38 AM PDT by U-238
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To: ETL

That is not to say there aren’t a lot of far-fetched theories out there in the field of cosmology.

There are a lot of theories. wonder why? I don’t buy any of it.


30 posted on 04/03/2012 2:20:59 AM PDT by rurgan (Make all laws have an expiration date of 3 years. too many laws is the problem)
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To: rurgan
Scientists have even said that CO2 is a pollutant.

If these phonies were really "green" they would promote CO2 emissions, as there are few better friends to plant life than CO2. They can't exist without it and thrive in its abundance.

31 posted on 04/03/2012 2:25:32 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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32 posted on 04/03/2012 2:26:20 AM PDT by bd476
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To: rurgan
THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause [historically -etl]. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.

In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change

ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) — Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193013.htm

33 posted on 04/03/2012 2:26:36 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: rurgan
There are a lot of theories. wonder why? I don’t buy any of it.

We would still be living in the Stone Age if it weren't for modern science. Without the "theory" of Quantum Mechanics, for example, we wouldn't have transistors.

10 Real-world Applications of Quantum Mechanics:

http://curiosity.discovery.com/topic/applications-of-quantum-mechanics/10-real-world-applications-of-quantum-mechanics.htm

34 posted on 04/03/2012 2:38:15 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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10. The Transistor

In the fall of 1945, the U.S. Army completed its work on ENIAC, the world’s first vacuum-tube computer. All told, ENIAC weighed more than 30 tons (27 metric tons), had the footprint of a small house and cost nearly half a million dollars to create [source: Weik]. Fortunately, by the time ENIAC was built, Bell Laboratories was already well on its way to developing a replacement for power-hungry, space-consuming vacuum tubes: the transistor. Transistors act as both an amplifier and a switch for electronic signals, functions essential to virtually all modern electronic equipment, and without quantum mechanics, they likely wouldn’t exist.

That’s because transistors rely on the unique properties of semiconductors — materials that can act as either a conductor or an insulator — to operate. Thanks to groundbreaking discoveries in quantum mechanics, Stanford researcher Eugene Wigner and his student, Frederick Seitz, were the first to manipulate the properties of semiconductors in the 1930s. Armed with their research, scientists from Bell Laboratories developed the first rudimentary transistors over the next decade, and by 1954, the United States military had constructed TRIDAC, the first transistor-based computer. Unlike the monstrous, unreliable vacuum-tube computers that preceded it, TRIDAC occupied only 3 cubic feet (0.08 cubic meters) and needed only 100 watts of power to operate [source: PBS]. Today, companies like Intel and AMD fabricate cutting-edge microprocessors containing billions of microprocessors, and we have quantum mechanics to thank.

http://curiosity.discovery.com/topic/applications-of-quantum-mechanics/10-real-world-applications-of-quantum-mechanics1.htm


35 posted on 04/03/2012 2:48:52 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: rurgan
Yeah like the global warming questions. Anthropogenic global warming is completely fake science. So why should we believe anything these scientists say and even in what they about the universe say you can tell they don’t understand any of it.


Fixed it for you.
36 posted on 04/03/2012 3:09:47 AM PDT by Kegger
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To: The Cajun

Sounds man made. Better not tell Algore.


37 posted on 04/03/2012 3:10:50 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: BOBWADE

>>Sounds man made. Better not tell Algore.

Algore, creator of the ‘theory’ of GoreBull Warming.


38 posted on 04/03/2012 3:22:06 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Lancey Howard
That is, not only the stars, but everything beyond the stars

the thought that there is a star all the way out there and then nothingness beyond that is beyond my comprehension.......

39 posted on 04/03/2012 3:23:26 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The further you look out into the universe the further back in time you are seeing. Stars didn’t always exist.


40 posted on 04/03/2012 3:29:43 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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