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To: katiedidit1

The problem Mormons run into is their prophets are supposed to be infallible and get direct revelation from God.

WHat do you do when so many infallible prophets in the past have gone along with the Mormon teachings about black people and why their skin is dark?

It wasn’t even until the 1970s they let blacks into the Temples (it’s not like you just go there and they let you in) for their secret ceremonies. When BYU figured out blacks could play basketball for them, that’s when the current infallible prophets started to backpedal away from the prior infallible prophets on all that old black people racist crap that existed in the Mormon teachings.


15 posted on 04/02/2012 12:24:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Ride The White Horse ....


24 posted on 04/02/2012 12:53:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Secret Agent Man

the current infallible prophets started to backpedal away from the prior infallible prophets


LOL


32 posted on 04/02/2012 1:37:51 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Secret Agent Man; katiedidit1; All
The problem Mormons run into is their prophets are supposed to be infallible and get direct revelation from God. WHat do you do when so many infallible prophets in the past have gone along with the Mormon teachings about black people and why their skin is dark?

Well, you do what the Mormon leaders are trying to do now -- erect a new tightrope & try to be a trapeze artist tiptoeing it-- like this Lds general authority did this past weekend @ the Lds General Conference: See Apostle says key to LDS beliefs is divine revelation: Conference » Apostle adds, “Not every statement made by a church leader, past or present ... constitutes doctrine.”

Note what lds "apostle" D. Todd Christofferson tried to get away with over the weekend:
"Not every statement made by a church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine...A statement made by one leader on a single occasion often represents a personal, though well-considered, opinion, [and is] not meant to be official or binding for the whole church." This distinction was especially salient in recent weeks when a Brigham Young University religion professor was quoted in The Washington Post, describing some allegedly Mormon beliefs about black skin being "the curse of Cain" or blacks as so-called "fence-sitters" in premortal life, to explain the Utah-based faith’s exclusion of black men from its all-male priesthood until 1978...Christofferson shared an example of Brigham Young offering a particular perspective in a morning conference speech and then reversing himself by the afternoon. The apostle quoted the 19th-century Mormon leader as saying, "Brigham Young had been talking in the morning, but the Lord was going to talk now."

Now do you see the Mormon leader resemblance 'tween Brigham Young & Mitt Romney? "Mitt Romney had been talking in the morning, but another Mitt Romney was going to talk now."

When the Mormon "faithful" hear a Mormon general authority, they take it from the "horse's mouth" that these guys represent the Mormon gods. Not so fast, claims Christofferson...Might just be an opinion...perhaps a speculation...could be even a spectre caused -- to use a Dickens' phrase -- "an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of underdone potato." Who knows?

BOTTOM-LINE, MORMONS: Don't you dare take ANYTHING any Lds general authority leader @ face value. Might be a 'doctrine' that's changed later on; or could be a mere speculative opinion.

'Cause that's all Mormon leaders "trade" in these days...opinions...

37 posted on 04/02/2012 4:05:15 PM PDT by Colofornian ( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
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To: Secret Agent Man
...that’s when the current infallible prophets started to backpedal away from the prior infallible prophets on all that old black people racist crap that existed in the Mormon teachings.




In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)

50 posted on 04/02/2012 6:22:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Secret Agent Man
The problem Mormons run into is their prophets are supposed to be infallible and get direct revelation from God.

Not quite.

Their 'prophets' are mere men just like the rest of us mokes; unTIL they receive and process something from GOD.

THEN the 'prophet' has to be CONFIRMED by the Yesmen of Twelve.




UNAMIMOUSLY - just like the prophets of GOD in the OT did.

52 posted on 04/02/2012 6:26:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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