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JPMorgan's Tom Lee: One Thing Puzzles Me About This Stock Market Rally
TBI ^ | 4-2-2012 | Sam Ro

Posted on 04/01/2012 10:49:30 PM PDT by blam

JPMorgan's Tom Lee: One Thing Puzzles Me About This Stock Market Rally

Sam Ro
April 1, 2012, 9:44 PM

No one has made any money on it!

JP Morgan's Tom Lee spoke with Bloomberg's Carol Massar on Friday after the S&P 500 booked its best quarter in 14 years.

"Something that's been puzzling about this rally that started in March '09 is that the public hasn't really participated," said Lee.

"They pulled $300 billion out of the equity markets over the last three years. And trading volumes have been low, which means the institutions haven't really been participating in this rally either. Institutional volumes actually continue to shrink."

In other words, the stock market rally has largely been driven by a couple of guys, trading stocks back and forth to each other while most sit idly by on the sidelines.

But, is anyone really surprised by this lack of participation? The last three years have often been called one of the most hated rallies in history. And most "experts" have advised investors to be cautious.

Back in December when Business Insider surveyed Wall Street's top strategists, the lack of bullish conviction was reflected by the consensus year-end S&P 500 target of 1,363. At the time, the statement that epitomized the Street's wishy-washy sentiment came from Nomura's Ian Scott:

Putting things bluntly, either we have another very serious credit event with consequences at least as severe as the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy, or stocks are probably a buy.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: djia; investing; markets; stocks

1 posted on 04/01/2012 10:49:36 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
trading volumes have been low

That bugs me too.

2 posted on 04/01/2012 10:53:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: blam
How are retail sales?

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3 posted on 04/01/2012 11:16:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I tried to buy a hoodie today but the store manager said they had all been shoplifted.)
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To: mylife

The rally in stock market during first Quarter of 2012 is capitulation by holders of cash instruments such as CD’s, treasury bills & notes etc. who want more yields. I expect 15% lower prices ahead during 2012.


4 posted on 04/01/2012 11:17:41 PM PDT by entropy12 (Every tax payer now owes $150,000 towards the national debt. Greek tragedy on the way here.)
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To: mylife
Low compared to what?

Trading volume is not really pushed up by institutional investors. Not when the average holding period for stocks is seconds to minutes. Traders are what pushes up volume.

To get huge drops in volume, even though holding by investors increase all that is necessary is for trading to slow down, which is what has happened.

5 posted on 04/01/2012 11:22:49 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: blam

I’m guessing that people are probably consolidating, because a lot of people went into some serious debt buying stocks, thinking they could pay it all back with the gains made.


6 posted on 04/01/2012 11:24:50 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: mylife

“the stock market rally has largely been driven by a couple of guys”


It has been my contention for quite some time that this
is no longer your father’s market.
It is now a few fat cats and super computers doing the
pump and dump.
The average investor is being sucker-punched, as Soros laughs all the way to the bank.

It has been over forty years since I played the market.


7 posted on 04/01/2012 11:31:39 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

It’s the Central Banks and their primary dealers that are pumping up the market.


8 posted on 04/01/2012 11:47:29 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: blam

It’s an election year.


9 posted on 04/02/2012 12:00:02 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: blam

so puzzling... if you’re brain dead

when you lower the value of the dollar...

everything valued in dollars goes up.

this country is lousy with fools and idiots


10 posted on 04/02/2012 12:55:57 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
I saw Carl Ichan talk about the Stock Market and he said friends used that 1% return on their money as they were all in on stocks.

He told them 1% is better than 30% loss.

11 posted on 04/02/2012 4:56:46 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: blam

I suspect most want to keep the John Corzines of the world away from their cash.....


12 posted on 04/02/2012 5:01:55 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: sten

this seems to be a pretty difficult concept for people to grasp-media included.


13 posted on 04/02/2012 9:07:38 AM PDT by RC one (may the strongest man win.)
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