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Obamacare Mandates Justified by ‘Interstate Commerce’? (Obama's Team recycles an old trick)
National Review ^ | 03/28/2012 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 03/28/2012 6:36:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/28/2012 6:36:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The government could require us to dine OUT rather than at home as dining in has a negative effect on commerce.


2 posted on 03/28/2012 6:40:06 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: SeekAndFind

By destroying competition, and using fixed pricing Obama”care” violates anti-trust laws.


3 posted on 03/28/2012 6:41:35 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: SeekAndFind

Here is the problem as I see it.

If he didn’t grow wheat, for his family or for commerce, would he be penalized for not growing it?

That’s the problem with Obamacare. If I do not want healthcare or need healthcare, why shuld I be penalized for it.

Now I would take it a step further and reall screw up the SCOTUS. If I do not have kids I nschool, why should I pay property taxes?


4 posted on 03/28/2012 6:43:21 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I is dead (Hopeful)


5 posted on 03/28/2012 6:46:37 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Oratam

A mandate is merely a dictate. Thus, if we are dictated to, do we then live under a Dictatorship?

If our freedom of choice is taken from us by the dictates of a hostile Federal government, then what Liberty do we have left?


6 posted on 03/28/2012 6:50:57 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Obamacare is not about health care. It’s about murdering people and becoming a dictator. I hope the Supreme Court does the right thing and throws it out. It is dangerous and so are the people that illegally put it in.


7 posted on 03/28/2012 6:51:00 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Oratam

A Dem government would require you to think only pure thoughts because impure thoughts lead to crime and have a negative effect on commerce.

But, because all Dems think about is Race, Social Justice, Abortion, Death, Taxes, and Tyranny, all their thoughts are intrinsically impure.

Ergo, can we permanently lock up all Dems and throw away the key?


8 posted on 03/28/2012 6:52:13 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

The yoke of Wickard needs to be thrown from our shoulders.


9 posted on 03/28/2012 6:52:13 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: SeekAndFind

In my dreams, the Supremes not only knock down ObamaCare but reverse Filburn as well.


10 posted on 03/28/2012 6:52:54 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Romney's judicial appointments were more radical than Obama's)
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If I do not have kids I nschool, why should I pay property taxes?

If this week's arguments are any indication, then the statist's response would be that because it is proven that lack of education contributes to a whole slew of social woes, which affect commerce(crime and destruction of wealth)and that you will eventually interact with society, at some point in your life, then you are responsible for paying for government mandated education; for the greater good.

Hope that clears it up, comrade.

11 posted on 03/28/2012 6:53:45 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Regardless of the # number of kids you have, including zero, why is the burden of educating them the responsibility of property owners?


12 posted on 03/28/2012 6:56:24 AM PDT by WinMod70
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Madison:
With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.


This applies to ANY clause in the Constitution that the left uses to justify government expansion.
“General Welfare”, “Necessary and Proper”, “Interstate Commerce”, etc.


13 posted on 03/28/2012 6:59:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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The mandate is just a way to get into your pocket...take ypur money....and give nothing in return.

I'm on SS. Every month they take out $100 for Part B and I also buy a supplement. So much for the joys of Medicare....and all the years I paid into it BEFORE I semi retired.

Pssst....Part B was $3.00 a month when it started..a typical hour's pay.

14 posted on 03/28/2012 7:04:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Turbo Pig

“Hope that clears it up, comrade. “

Yes tovarishch, that cleared things up.


15 posted on 03/28/2012 7:16:21 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sowell is great, but the 10th Amendment does not say “explicitly.”


16 posted on 03/28/2012 7:42:03 AM PDT by buridan
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Why does it need to say “explicitly”?


17 posted on 03/28/2012 7:55:34 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Oratam

Well then government could mandate that we have to eat Obama Peas with a spoon, less we drop one from a fork and injure our health...


18 posted on 03/28/2012 8:01:38 AM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: SeekAndFind
By this logic, Congress could outlaw private home ownership because it negatively affects the rental economy.

There was a time a few decades ago when Congress looked into imputing a rental income on home owners so as to tax that iputed income, on the premise that if they did not live in their own home they would be renting it and earning an income. Therefore, they should be treated as if they were paying themselves a rent for living in their own home.

-PJ

19 posted on 03/28/2012 8:28:02 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Turbo Pig; EQAndyBuzz
If this week's arguments are any indication, then the statist's response would be that because it is proven that lack of education contributes to a whole slew of social woes, which affect commerce(crime and destruction of wealth)and that you will eventually interact with society, at some point in your life, then you are responsible for paying for government mandated education; for the greater good.

It is worse than the fact that you may at sometime interact with society - the mere fact that you COULD POSSIBLY have kids is a good enough reasoning by the liberals/statists!

And just to continue to add on to the STUPIDITY of these ideas, then the married gays and lesbians could file for freedom from these taxes because they CAN'T have kids! THINK ABOUT THAT MESSED UP LOGIC!
20 posted on 03/28/2012 8:31:56 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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