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To: OldNavyVet

I have not seen his Facebook page or anything which he has posted, but of what I have read, he originally stated that he would not follow Obama’s orders. Then he clarified his statement that he would not follow “unlawful” orders - which is what the UCMJ requires.

The fact that he is a Marine and speaks badly of the CIC is NOT - I repeat - NOT illegal!

What is NOT allowed is that you are not allowed to imply that the Marine Corps nor the government is in agreement or behind with your positions and you cannot be in uniform to protest, etc... But, otherwise, you are COMPLETELY within your rights to voice your opinion of the President and any other person in an Administration!

You do not give UP your rights, you simply have to work within the rules which are setup to ensure that military personnel are not DIRECTLY negatively subverting the Presidents orders.

I spent ten years in the Marine Corps and we spoke often of the good and the bad of Presidents, Secretaries of Defense and other “civilian leaders” and that was on base, in uniform! Had we went off base, in uniform and started lambasting the President, then yes, we might have had a problem, but voicing you opinion and telling people you are a Marine is not in and of itself - ILLEGAL or wrong!

Look to the numerous ACTIVE DUTY personnel who voiced their complaints and problems with the LBJ and Nixon Administrations of Vietnam! If anything, the soldiers during the Vietnam era WERE directly violating the UCMJ, but they were not discharged for their outbursts!

Stating your opinion publicly while being in the Marine Corps is NOT inherently against the UCMJ! For the Marine Corps to state otherwise is to subvert the 1st Amendment rights of the men fighting for the Constitution, in which the 1st Amendment is listed! Just my two cents.


12 posted on 03/22/2012 11:43:51 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ExTxMarine

Your’s is good-to-know information ... Thank you.


15 posted on 03/22/2012 11:56:46 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: ExTxMarine

I am a member of his page...check it out...
disclaimer is front and center!

https://www.facebook.com/ArmedForcesTeaParty


16 posted on 03/22/2012 11:57:45 AM PDT by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: ExTxMarine

Retired Maj Gen Paul Vallely has stated publicly that Obama is not Constitutionally eligible. Since he’s an officer, would this claim against Stein mean that Vallely should be court-martialed too? Or is it different when an officer is retired?


17 posted on 03/22/2012 12:01:27 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: ExTxMarine

Art 88, UCMJ prohibits contempt of officials, including the Prez, but applies only to commissioned officers.


25 posted on 03/22/2012 12:34:36 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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