[Myrddin]

Before going on with speculation, read the eyewitness report upthread. Zimmerman was on the ground. Martin was on top of him beating him. Zimmerman was calling for help. A gunshot was heard. Martin was then observed on the ground.

[allmendream]

It doesn’t matter who was WINNING the fist fight - only who initiated the confrontation and escalated it into violence.

And I say his fat ass shouldn’t be getting into fist fights while armed if he is going to, once losing the fight, pull his gun and kill a kid who went to the store to get candy.