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To: CharlesWayneCT
Just because Zimmerman "had a weapon" doesn't mean it wasn't holstered and concealed prior to the initiation of physical assault on Zimmerman by Martin. You don't pick a fist fight with a guy holding a gun on you. You might attempt a fist fight if your size gives you significant physical advantage over an apparently unarmed adversary. If Zimmerman was no physical match for Martin and pulled the firearm after being beaten by Martin, he does have a self-defense position. We don't have sufficient information to know who threw the first punch. Clearly it lasted long enough for Zimmerman to appear beaten.
49 posted on 03/21/2012 11:10:00 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

IF a guy pulls a gun on me, I guess I could just wait for him to shoot me, or I could try to run until he shoots me in the back, or I could try to disarm him and then use the gun to hold him off.

You are right, we have no idea if the gun was visible, but the idea that the gun had to be hidden or Martin would have just stood there is false.

If you look at pictures of Zimmerman, he’s an imposing-looking guy. Zimmerman told the 911 operator that he was observed by Martin, who then started walking away toward the back entrance of the community.

Imagine this from Martin’s perspective. You are a teen in a community that isn’t your own neighborhood. You are walking back to the house you are staying at. A car pulls up slowly and is following you. There is a large mean-looking hispanic guy staring at you. As you walk, he follows you slowly.

You try to walk faster, and then the guy gets out of his car and starts coming after you.

Do you assume that the guy is a good guy who is coming to ask you questions, or do you assume the guy is coming to rob you? If the gun is showing, it just makes the situation more threatening.

BTW, a guy with a gun should not be approaching a suspect close enough to get into a fist fight, with the gun still holstered.

This could all be a tragic misunderstanding, but I don’t see how Zimmerman gets out of this as the “victim”. Once the 911 operator told Zimmerman NOT to follow the guy, Zimmerman lost his chance to claim “self-defense”, in my opinion.


51 posted on 03/21/2012 11:24:43 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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