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To: samtheman

I’ll tell you how high it goes, because we know:

In 1965, a black mass* was held within the Vatican. Pope Paul VI possibly knew for he famously yet cryptically declared that “the smoke of Satan has entered the sanctuary.” But apparently, he did not know who was involved. Maddenlingly, Paul VI would issue orthodox, strong, clear dogmatic teaching, such as Humanae Vitae, upholding Catholic doctrines on sexuality, abortion, and birth control, while allowing all manner of liturgical abuse and heresy to not only flourish, but propagate.

One top contender was Fr. Joseph Bernadin, the papal camerlingo (the camerlingo runs the papal household) from Charleston, SC. Charleston is where the Southern Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, which uses a black mass, was founded. Bernadin would, very seperately, be accused of molesting children with the eucharist, which is where any Catholics’ heads should absolutely explode.

Bernadin nonetheless became the golden boy in the American Catholic church. He was promoted to Archbishop of Cincinnati, where he was made the founding head of the National Council of Catholic Bishops (later the USCCB). There, he founded the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, which provides seed money for radical, leftist groups. One group they founded was the ACORN, led by satanist and anarchist Saul Alinsky, whose disciples include Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

At the head of the USCCB, he authorized the publication of the New American Bible, the first edition of which falsely claimed that the ancient church believed in a flat earth, denied the historicity of miracles in the New and Old testament, and included heresy after heresy in the footnotes. (If you anyone owns a New American Bible, and is objecting, hang with me a bit more...) The USCCB made the NAB the required bible of the American Catholic church (which is not to say that people couldn’t privately own other bibles).

Back in the 1960s, priests working with Alinsky had been booted from Chicago when the local archbishop realized how evil they were. They were quickly snatched up by the University of Notre Dame, which soon the Land of Lakes conference. At that conference, nearly every major Catholic university in the United States would declare its intellectual separation from the doctrines of Rome. But in 1982, Bernadin would be made Archbishop of Chicago, and soon would be considered “the American pope.”

As de-facto leader of the Catholic church, Bernadin taught that abortion was wrong, but that voters should consider the totality of a candidate’s charity; there support for “social justice” throughout a lifespan could outweigh the passing mistake of supporting abortion. Meanwhile, he shared an apartment with Milwaukee Archbishop Weakland, who is now openly homosexual. Bernadin and Weakland had both been accused of raping children. Weakland, through his association with Bernadin, ran the liturgical “reforms” of the American Catholic church.

But in 1978, an exorcist was made Pope. At first, he seemingly took the counsel of his papal nuncios and national leaders, having further promoted Bernadin, Mahony, Weakland, etc., But by 1980, at least, the surging tide of homosexual abuse began to decline, according to the analysis by John Jay study. By 1990, the rate had declined over 95%. Almost all of the news stories you hear about even today involve abuse which happened in the first half of John Paul II’s reign, or earlier.

John Paul II appointed as his enforcer of doctrine yet another exorcist, Joseph Ratzinger. You have to understand how rare 20th-century, European exorcists are, to understand what a truly amazing situation it is that the Catholic Church has been led by successive exorcists. By Vatican II, exorcism, used largely to missionize pagan lands, was virtually unheard of in Europe... for hundreds of years!!!

Now, many people have complained that John Paul II and Benedict XVI have “covered up” the abuse. The truth is that long before the media got wind of the problem, abuse rates fell by 95%. I believe, however, that the heretics and informally schismatic rebels controlled far too much of the Catholic church for such a direct campaign.

Had the pope merely ousted the bad guys, they simply would have declared open schism, announced that the Holy Spirit had led them to further reforms “in the spirit of Vatican II,” and they would have ended the institution of the papacy, leading the Catholic Church into a position like the Episcopalian Church, where homosexuality is simply celebrated. Remember, nearly all of the sex-abuse victims were post-pubescent. The response would simply be to “help abuse victims shed their repression, and fully embrace the sexuality God gave them.”

Don’t think that this isn’t happening in other churches! Satan is attacking all Christian churches. He doesn’t even need to do any wierd stuff in the Liberal churches; his minions run them: the Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, the United Church of Christ, the PCUSA (”first Presbyterian”), the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, etc. Don’t abandon these churches! Reclaim the for Christ! Understand that you are fighting a spiritual battle, and you can defeat the present leaders!!!

Pray for correct doctrine in your church.

Pray for correct worship, that all worship will truly be submission to Christ.

Pray to drive out the devil.

But also, beware in the conservative churches. In the Catholic Churches, the virginity of a priest is most valuable; in other churches, the virginity of a young woman is, so the diabolical attacks are on young women. But the sex abuse is rampant, and is being covered up by the church leaders, just as the Catholic Church leaders covered up sexual abuse in the 1970s and 1980s.

Most fraternities and sororities uses sexual degradation and desensitization as part of their initiation. Do not accept people from these fraternities and sororities into your church leadership, unless their repentance has been clear, and their specific sins detailed.

How many church leaders are freemasons? Yes, Washington, et al, were freemasons, but those freemasons had only three degrees, and none of the pagan worship. The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry introduced 33 degrees of progressively more pagan rites.

(*Note of explanation: according to Catholic doctrine, a black mass is a mass which makes a mockery of Christ, His Church, His Word, or His Eucharist. In doing such, they are inherently diabolical. They do not necessarily have any obvious worship of the devil. At the same time, any old-time Catholic would recognize the mass as invalid: use of invalid elements in confecting the eucharist, such as honey bread, impure wine, non-noble vessels; omission of key prayers; avoidance of the Holy Name; heretical innovations within key prayers. Malachi Martin’s depiction was quite apparently Satanic, but his account is fictionalized.)


11 posted on 03/20/2012 5:33:09 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

“Most fraternities and sororities uses sexual degradation and desensitization as part of their initiation.”

Just your fraternity, mate. mine didn’t.


12 posted on 03/20/2012 5:38:55 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: dangus

That connects a lot of dots, especially regarding “Land of Lakes.”


13 posted on 03/20/2012 5:39:17 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: dangus

I forgot to include my explanation about the New American Bible.

Since it’s initial publication, the Vatican has directed drastic overhauls. This is why many Catholics will scratch their heads at my initial description. Among Vatican-ordered inclusions:

* Removal of many heretical and faith-depressing notes

* An inclusion of a doctrinal statement that the bible is the inerrant Word of God; Saying that this statement demands the literal interpretation would be an over-simplification; there’s some nuancing on literary styles, given the use of metaphors, but I’d dare say that fundamentalists and evangelicals would approve of such nuance; it’s a direct rebuttal of the sort of “myth” blather from the first edition.

* A substantial re-translation of the Old Testament in the 2nd edition, and of the New Testament in the 3rd edition.

It’s still not my favorite translation. It needlessly translates some idioms, losing not only some of the poetry, but the spirituality, of older translations and the original text. (Is there really any danger someone might thing that St. Stephen took a nap as he was being stoned? Can’t they see where “fell asleep” inspires faith in ways that “died” doesn’t?) But the rampant heresy is gone.


15 posted on 03/20/2012 5:44:06 AM PDT by dangus
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To: NYer

Your comment please.


17 posted on 03/20/2012 5:52:17 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: dangus

>> Don’t abandon these churches! <<

I rather wish I had chosen different wording. As a Catholic, I believe that those led by the Holy Spirit to do so, MUST come to the Catholic Church. But however imperfect the Protestant churches are, the Holy Spirit does work within them, and those who know Christ can produce, through the working of the Holy Spirit within them.

What I wanted to express is my opposition to the solution of simply abandoning all Christian institutions to Satan, by ever finer splintering of denominational families. Clinging to life-rafts is no way to raise an armada. If, while fighting such spiritual warfare, anyone is inspired to join the Catholic church, praise God! But I expect that any Protestant may seem the wisdom of my encouragement to prayer; if they disagree with where it might take them, so be it.


19 posted on 03/20/2012 6:02:56 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
As de-facto leader of the Catholic church, Bernadin taught that abortion was wrong, but that voters should consider the totality of a candidate’s charity; there support for “social justice” throughout a lifespan could outweigh the passing mistake of supporting abortion.

Very interesting.

My brother-in-law is a (highly) significant leader in the Holy Cross order. Ordained at Notre Dame in 1987. Has many Chicago connections and spent about 5 years there as a fundraiser/headmaster for Holy Cross Catholic schools. While he's not a child molester, nor is he gay, he neverthelss has made the promotion of "diversity" a significant issue.

When I asked how he reconciles his support for democrats and the Catholic opposition to abortion, he gave the response, almost word-for-word "consider the totality of a candidate’s charity"

22 posted on 03/20/2012 6:31:30 AM PDT by kidd
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To: dangus
I can't respond to all your comments but this one I find most interesting, Can you share some specifics on these footnotes, etc.? Just a few will do, thank you.

“At the head of the USCCB, he authorized the publication of the New American Bible, the first edition of which falsely claimed that the ancient church believed in a flat earth, denied the historicity of miracles in the New and Old testament, and included heresy after heresy in the footnotes. (If you anyone owns a New American Bible, and is objecting, hang with me a bit more...)”

23 posted on 03/20/2012 6:34:08 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: dangus

Good summary. The only thing you skipped was the sudden death of JPI, who had publicly announced that he intended to correct the errors of Vatican II and even reverse some of the changes. He lasted about 30 days as Pope before they got him.

As for JPII, he started off much stronger but after the assassination attempt, it seemed to me that he backed away and unfortunately took a rather hands-off approach to Church governance. He had many bad people in the Curia, not to mention among the bishops worldwide. There was much open teaching of heresy during his reign, until towards the end when Cardinal Ratzinger had gotten enough power to begin silencing some of the more prominent of these people.

However, the bad bishops continued in power, and only now, with the more recent appointments made by Ratzinger, are we seeing any change in direction.

I think schism is going to happen anyway, at least in the US. The bishops in the US have failed to assert their authority and have allowed everybody from wacky nuns to dissident college presidents to Nancy Pelosi to present themselves as legitimate voices and authorities of the Catholic Church. Obama is going to force the issue in some way that will mean that the orthodox bishops will have to take a stand...at which point the “American Patriotic Church” people such as Nancy Pelosi and the gang will receive the overt support of a few bishops, probably including Wuerl, which will enable them to proclaim themselves to be the “true” Church. The orthodox bishops will be portrayed as interlopers loyal to a foreign power, and will be removed from any control over the assets and general population of the Church.

Avoiding schism by not correcting heresy only allowed it to grow stronger and make its ultimate occurence more likely.


24 posted on 03/20/2012 6:34:42 AM PDT by livius
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To: dangus
molesting children with the eucharist

What exactly does that mean?

40 posted on 03/20/2012 2:27:33 PM PDT by WPaCon
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