Posted on 03/18/2012 7:18:59 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
I remember an episode where Suzanne Pleshette was pregnant but it was a dream (nightmare). I never saw the other Newhart show.
The famous story is they kept pushing the idea and showed him a script, he said it was very funny and then asked “who are you going to get to play Bob”. Classic.
You never saw the one set in Vermont ? I only have vague memories of watching the one from the ‘70s on CBS Sunday nights (I was about 4 when the first one was cancelled). I frequently watched the ‘80s one in prime time. It’s weird so many shows I remember from prime time are now considered classics. Where did the time go ?
Yes, I do recall Bob making that snarky remark that he’d walk if they made him a dad. Come to think of it, I always thought it similarly peculiar on “The Honeymooners” that neither of the two couples had kids (yet those real-life neighborhoods with similar couples would obviously have them). Jackie Gleason supposedly didn’t care for working with kids. When he was filming “The Toy” with Richard Pryor and a kid actor playing his young son, he supposedly deliberately flubbed or ad-libbed his lines to throw the kid off (and the kid was prepared, but didn’t know how to respond). Although kind of funny, it was a dick thing to do when the kid was trying to be professional.
If I’d been his age working with Gleason, I’d have been a real pain in Jackie’s butt. They once had to pull me off a stage at Opryland (this was over 30 years ago) when James Best (Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane of the Dukes of Hazzard) made an appearance there to meet & greet his kid fans and I was trying to upstage him. Perhaps I can understand why these actors don’t want to work with kids. ;-D
I always point out to my young sons that everything around them was built by men, and that the people who make TV shows hate them because they are men.
They’re learning young.
War on men started about the time the Mary Tyler Moore show started.
GEnocide of woman in islam is indeed the mo, and it starts by forcing them to sex as none of them have the option of serving God in chastity. But tell that to a liberal whore who wants free condoms...
GEnocide of woman in islam is indeed the mo, and it starts by forcing them to sex as none of them have the option of serving God in chastity. But tell that to a liberal whore who wants free condoms...
or to a sex attention manipulated emotional liberal homosexual dolt for that matter.
The war, in the “Cosmic Battle” sense, is actually a war on families.
The best way to destroy the institution of “family” is to take out the father. And that’s the goal.
Commonality - a hatred for Christ and His people.
The left opposes any Christian values,
and supports any group that also opposes Christianity.
Last night the impresario of the cigar show on late-night talk radio, in between singing the glories of cigar varieties I'd never heard of, and matching them up with appropriate Irish whiskeys for the occasion, noticed Hillary's comment, played a clip of her audio, and offered an observation of his own.
For one thing, he said, Hillary's comment is bass-ackwards (that's called projection, but he didn't use the word). It's always women who try to dictate to men, who nag and bitch (that's why they call it "bitching" not "duding" or "dorking" -- although he didn't point that out either, his show being a family-friendly one) and want to accompany them to the haberdashery and order the tailors around. "That looks terrible, bring him something else!"
It used to be that the woman of the house owned everything from the front porch to the back porch, he said (I have a couple of objections to that idea), and men owned the whole world outside it. Obviously, the dears have decided that that has had to change and are vigorously trying to drive men down into something like serfdom, the rules of which are to be presided over by odious women like Hillary Clinton. (And Gloria Allred, and Nancy Pelosi, and Gloria Steinem, and Naomi Wolf, and the list goes on and on.)
In addition to all the foregoing, in reply to your comment about the TV image of men, I noticed the newest (not the most compleat, or egregious -- just the newest) last night, in a commercial in which a woman is "confronted" situationally by the announcer, who shows us the feckless, grinning fool of a husband changing bouncing baby's diaper on her kitchen counter, i.e. the food preparation area, and sitting up barebottomed progeny on the counter. When life's challenges assail YOUR counters, the voice intoned, reach for Brand X sanitizing cleaner in its handy spray-bottle. HER counters. HER house. HER drooling idiot of a husband trying to appease her by diapering Junior.
Television is all like this. As an exasperated Ladies Home Journal senior editor instructed a clueless young questioner after the exec's public comments at a C-SPAN event back in spring, 1997, TV is all about women now. The questioner had asked the executive why there wasn't more programming on TV for women. The reply was, it's ALL for women, which is why, in case Junior Miss hadn't noticed, men have become championship-grade channel-surfers. It's because there is almost zero programming done for their interests anymore, outside the room-temperature-IQ sportsdrool shows featuring a swarm of ex-jocks, boat horns, halftime sirens, and bells, but otherwise just an endless desert of soaps, rom-coms, sitcoms, melodramas masquerading as evening programming, movies of the ilk of The Prince of Tides, Message in a Bottle, The Pelican Brief (which in case you hadn't noticed, is All About Her and HER Truth), game shows morning and night, Mexican telenovelas, and so on.
More recently, I noticed that the overnight news on CBS and ABC has degenerated to a combination of rissoles from Nightline and the evening news -- the old short items that didn't make the Evening News but were put on overnight instead, have been dropped, and we're getting more stories that feature
And speaking of Nightline, I noticed that a recent instalment featured "items" about a missing child (CHILD, and WOMAN TALKING), a woman's health issues (DOCTOR, and WOMAN TALKING), and another story about a woman ichthyologist who investigates (and swims with) big whale sharks (WOMAN TALKING). There's a certain .....continuity there.
Call me old-fashioned, but when I tune in the news, I want to see armies marching, I want to see a giant tank battle in the desert or a ship fighting mountainous seas in the "biggest storm in XXX years", or a sea-battle, or, for comic relief, Taiwanese legislators slugging it out on the chamber floor. I want to see news -- people flying in space (footnote), rockets to Mars (filler), stuff that is about Guy Stuff (rejects). Not some woman talking about how she felt when .... , et cetera.
Your ingenuous youth is showing, Cricket.
Way before that. The Danny Thomas Show (where Marlo learned her respect for men) was far worse, far earlier.
The Dick Van Dyke Show, where Mary got her start as "America's Sweetheart", dates to the early 60's. It was after that that Van Dyke did Divorce American Style (1964 iirc), which should be in the canon but isn't AFAICT. Van Dyke's humor was a series of screwups and malaprops that belonged to a genre of "regular guy gets it wrong" humor -- there's probably a $5 word for it somewhere -- that was and is a variety of sitcom. A precursor of Van Dyke's show that had the same general format was The Life of Riley. Jerry Lewis's early comic work was much in the same vein and goes back to the 1940's.
Newhart was an extremely intelligent man and usually underrated. See my last.
It actually started with commercials IMHO -- Ford ran a series of ads with misandristic (had never heard or seen that word back then) "guys are so stupid/funny/foolish" themes in 1964. Sucking up to women has been a staple of soap-sellers since forever.
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