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To: Ditter; x; rockrr
Ditter: "I am still having trouble with “dough” meaning a nervous “doe” deer, but whatever you say."

Yet further googles turned up this link with a great explanation.

The original discussion came from Theodore Dwight Weld's 1839 book: American Slavery As It Is: Testimony of a Thousand Witnesses.
Weld wrote:

But Weld and all other historians commenting on this question end up punting and straddling both sides.
Leonard Richards (Slave Power) put it this way:

The key point is that "Doughface" was a derogatory term, used by Southerners to insult Northerners who were trying to please them by giving into Southern demands.

Of course, in my context on this thread, I mean nothing of the sort.
Instead, I mean Northerners who share the South's commitment to true conservative principles.
So I'm not trying to insult anyone, but perhaps to rehabilitate the term "Doughface" in a modern, positive sense.

155 posted on 03/31/2012 5:30:30 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
You have certainly done some excellent sleuthing. So if I call you a doughfaced northerner and you call me a redneck Texan, we will neither one be insulted! :D
157 posted on 03/31/2012 6:12:28 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: BroJoeK
Instead, I mean Northerners who share the South's commitment to true conservative principles.

Maybe it's the other way around. Instead of a Wallace or a Thurmond, someone with deep Southern roots, Southern states are going for guys from Pennsylvania (though both have Southern ties).

Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum as a spokesman for "Southern conservative principles" may be an indication of how much things have changed in fifty years or so. Of course, the fact that these guys are a lot less likely to carry states like Pennsylvania does tend to cloud things.

165 posted on 04/01/2012 11:33:51 AM PDT by x
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