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What I was asking for is regarding the scoffing at 'legislating morality.'

How do feel about the clear examples I gave of doing just that, where no violence is involved? Any response?

But since your here, how do you feel about the fact that looking at women's breasts degrades women, and that the majority of women who are in porn flicks have been sexually abused and/or trafficked, and that's why they're there.

Does the inextricable link between porn and sexual violence bother you at all?

btw, the question of whichs is a 'higher priority' isn't really the issue, because the issues can all be discussed without the necessity of prioritizing and saying things like, because the economy is important, we shouldn't discuss the evil of pornography........as you seem to be saying.

Let's put that another way, PapaBear.....

A 13 year old girl runs away from home because she has been abused, and within 24 to 48 hours, she is trafficked for prostitution or kiddie porn where she is abused by her pimp, or the producers of the porn.

She gets older, and at 18 she thinks the only way she can make a living is to be a porn star, or continue prostitution. She's an adult, with adult breasts.

And it's those breasts......those of an abused young woman (and the majority of women in porn)....... who is now an adult and whose breasts are ogled by 'conservative' men who don't think it's any of our business because there are more important issues.......like the economy.......

You OK with that, PapaBear? Even if it were a relative, or a friend's kid?

THAT is the reality of porn, and it most definitely IS an issue that needs to be addressed.

Mockery may begin now. I don't care. The issue is real, it is destructive, and it should be talked about......HONESTLY....... by anyone who cares about the future of this country.

But since your here, how do you feel about the fact that looking at women's breasts degrades women,

My wife doesn't feel degraded by my looking at her breasts.

and that the majority of women who are in porn flicks have been sexually abused and/or trafficked, and that's why they're there.

It seems more likely that they are there because it's easy money and they don't have the skills to earn as much in a conventional job. One of my wife's friends was a topless dancer in her younger days. She did it because of the money. She was not abused or trafficked. She is now a public school teacher.

As far as Rick is concerned, what I'm saying is that whenever he makes remarks about porn, that is treated as his primary issue. You seem like somebody who will not be happy unless Rick DOES make it his front-and-center primary issue.

As far as your three examples are concerned, none of the three are properly the business of the federal government -- they are all regulated by state laws. But if I was offered a deal where we could abolish the EPA, Dept of Education, BATF, HEW, etc and cut the federal bureaucracy in half (not just re-assign them, but lay them off completely, their budgets abolished, and the legislation enabling their authority repealed entirely) in exchange for accepting polygamy and gay marriage, I would take the deal.

how do you feel about the fact that looking at women's breasts degrades women,

What on earth are you talking about? Where do you get the idea that looking at a woman's breasts degrades them. What do you do, turn your head or cover your eyes at the beach? Good grief man. When I read comments like this from you it makes me all the more certain that I don't want you or some government regulator determining what constitutes porn.

And that the majority of women who are in porn flicks have been sexually abused and/or trafficked, and that's why they're there.

Utter nonsense. I'm going to throw you a curve ball here, but I know you are probably incapable of accepting that it is true. Most women (and men) in the adult entertainment industry do it because they want to. It's generally easy work, it tends to pay good, it gives them a certain amount of power, etc.

I mean no offense when I tell you this, but I've known plenty of guys (White Knights) that sounded just like you until they found out the hard way that most of these girls don't want to be saved and many/most are reasonably or even perfectly happy. Perhaps corrupted in your eyes, but living life in the kind of fast lane they choose for themselves. Is it a healthy lifestyle? Nope. Is it something many/most are willing to do till they've gotten what they want out of it? Yup.

The information age is here. You can't roll back the clock. You are wasting your time even trying, and any politician who thinks he/she is going to win national elections by declaring a war on porn is going to lose and lose badly. The amount of control the Federal Government would need to assert to stop online pornography is far more frightening than just letting people watch skin flicks if they wish to do so. The ends do not justify the means. Porn is simply not a pressing national issue.