Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Up against the Wall! Should district be allowed to demand middle-schooler's Facebook password?
msnbc ^ | 3/13/2012 | Bob Sullivan

Posted on 03/13/2012 5:03:05 AM PDT by tobyhill

A 12-year-old Minnesota girl was reduced to tears while school officials and a police officer rummaged through her private Facebook postings after forcing her to surrender her password, an ACLU lawsuit alleges.

The claims are the latest in a string of tales showing that even password-protected, private online activities might not be safe from curious government agencies and schools. (See last week’s story)

The girl, whose identity is withheld in the lawsuit, came home "crying, depressed, angry, scared and embarrassed" after she was intimidated into divulging her login information by a school counselor and a deputy sheriff, who arrived in uniform, armed with a Taser, the lawsuit alleges.

(Excerpt) Read more at redtape.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: facebook; fb; govtabuse; lping; policestate; rapeofliberty; tyranny; waronliberty
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121 next last
To: biggerten

Paddling is ok in my book also, but using the police to violate your 4th amendment rights is wrong. Get a warrant first.


41 posted on 03/13/2012 6:37:14 AM PDT by Ratman83
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Scotswife
According to the article, the school feels justified in their actions because they obtained parental permission. If so, this is a tough case for the ACLU.

On one hand, I don't like the idea of on-line nazis. On the other, if the parents are going along with it, I can't cheer for the ACLU overruling the parents in a matter concerning their underage children.

On yet another hand, I really can't see anything that the kid posted on-line which would merit to this level of action. When I was that age, kids vented by passing notes, drawing cartoons and playground gossip using words and images more provocative than what this kid apparently posted on-line.

If caught, we might have our notes or cartoons confiscated or, if it was really serious, earn a trip to the principal or detention.

42 posted on 03/13/2012 6:43:17 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Ratman83

Yep, next stop, the USSA. Whatever you do, don’t displease the Stasi agents.


43 posted on 03/13/2012 6:47:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman

The kids are even nastier now.
They don’t get a break.
We used to go home, even after a tough day, and got a breather.

Now...they are on the phones, on the computer - and if you’re getting bullied it can be non-stop.

Parents have to step in to...and I’m sure most concerned parents do their best.

However...there is a certain group that shows up that school and says...”how could you not know this was happening!!”

As if teacher and principals are supposed to spend their off-hours monitoring the online conversations.

It’s a little bizarre.


44 posted on 03/13/2012 6:51:57 AM PDT by Scotswife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: silverleaf
According to the ACLU's version of events, the girl had moved and entered a new school as a 6th-grade student in the fall of 2010. In early 2011, she felt targeted by a school monitor and posted an update to her friends-only Facebook wall saying she "hated" the monitor because "she was mean to me," using her own computer and while off campus.

First, read the story before commenting is a good practice.

Second, no the school does not have the right to demand passwords.

Third, be sure the school did not instigate the kids have online accounts to "help teach computer skills."

45 posted on 03/13/2012 6:57:13 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

Yep, keeping a low profile, ever since I lost all my guns in a boating mishap.


46 posted on 03/13/2012 6:59:58 AM PDT by Ratman83
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

Linguistic fascism - love it!

I also know where I stand on your cube. Be smart, be safe.


47 posted on 03/13/2012 7:08:10 AM PDT by MichiganCheese (It's now or never!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: ctdonath2

“Why? WTF does the school have to do with Facebook? And WTF was a sheriff involved?”

Technically, nothing. But if a parent lets a MIDDLE-SCHOOLER on to Facebook, then someone better step in.


48 posted on 03/13/2012 7:13:37 AM PDT by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: rightly_dividing; Travis McGee
Taze my 12yo girl over this kind of crap and you will find the fighting side of me.

If some POS tazed my little girl they wouldn't "find" anything.

Dead people don't find things.

49 posted on 03/13/2012 7:14:59 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: BobL; tobyhill
(especially considering that the parent is already stupid enough to put the kid in public school, in the first place).

What if the parents can't afford either private school or to have 1 stay home? Pretty intolerant, aren't we?

FYI, I don't think that the girl lost her privacy rights simply because she wasn't 12. Frankly, the parents should have been contacted and ASKED (not intimidated into) releasing the password - or, better yet, asked to shut down the account or to monitor it for bullying (assuming that this was the concern). I'm sick and tired of every wannabee dictator out there deciding that one or another of our basic civil rights are meaningless in the face of safety or some other BS excuse.

50 posted on 03/13/2012 7:17:19 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated . . ."

The school was completely out of line. Facebook is the legal equivalent of her papers and effects. For the government to compel even a minor to do this is a gross violation of the First Amendment.

51 posted on 03/13/2012 7:20:33 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

I just had to put AM on my Facebook page. Couldn’t help myself... !


52 posted on 03/13/2012 7:24:54 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Ancesthntr

“What if the parents can’t afford either private school or to have 1 stay home?”

Let me re-phrase that. “What if the parents can’t afford either private school or to have 1 stay home, while still buying the plasma, having a house they can show off to the neighbors, etc.?”

In Texas, a family of 4 can live in an apartment for $600 per month rent. I suspect it’s similar in Minnesota. In virtually every situation, there are options other than turning over one’s kids to the state.


53 posted on 03/13/2012 7:26:06 AM PDT by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: BobL

“Technically, nothing.”

Then technically, her rights to free speech, free association, security of private papers, trial by jury, and her parents’ right to regulate her actives all remain intact and the school & sheriff have no delegated power to compel anything until a judge issues a warrant to that effect.

I wish her well in her soon-acquired fortune from a very successful suit over rights violations.

And yes, with proper monitoring (as with any social activity) a kid may enjoy a safe and proper experience on Facebook. Dunno who you’re friends with, but my account thereon is not a seething pit of indecency.


54 posted on 03/13/2012 7:27:37 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: ctdonath2

“Dunno who you’re friends with, but my account thereon is not a seething pit of indecency.”

The account that you see... Kids are very, very, good at hiding their real work.


55 posted on 03/13/2012 7:39:00 AM PDT by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

We would have words. They I would let my wife talk to them.


56 posted on 03/13/2012 7:45:50 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: G Larry
Hate/thought crimes are not protected by the constitution.

That will be the argument made by the cops and schools.

57 posted on 03/13/2012 7:49:17 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

A well known NC business, not one that normally sells this type of thing, is selling t-shirts and bumper stickers that read “Repeal the 1st Amendment, it discriminates.”
I fear we are losing.


58 posted on 03/13/2012 7:49:32 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: BobL; ctdonath2
I do remember this kid who though they could hide it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2844885/posts

59 posted on 03/13/2012 7:56:40 AM PDT by Ratman83
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: Ratman83

“I do remember this kid who though they could hide it.”

Yea, but her father is an IT type. He probably had sniffers and loggers all over her hardware. But for the rest of us, good luck.


60 posted on 03/13/2012 8:01:53 AM PDT by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson