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How Rick Santorum got a $2 million Virginia estate
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | mar.2012 | bySteve Contorno

Posted on 03/09/2012 11:05:29 AM PST by VU4G10

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To: napscoordinator

For those that might be having a problem with this, it’s not necessarily about the house.

It’s about the possibility that he’s creating a credibility problem in his quest to become the nominee. Do you really think that the Dems are not recording his statements and fact-checking everything he’s saying?

If he’s a credible candidate, he doesn’t need to spin. He, and his advisers, should be able to create a viable product without spin if he’s really a solid candidate.

Yes, I said the exact same thing when Newt was promising 2 buck a gallon gas. Substantial candidates don’t need to spin.


41 posted on 03/09/2012 11:39:41 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: silverleaf

It would be lovely to homeschool according to the laws of one’s “official state of residence” - but it doesn’t work that way. Kids are to be educated where they reside at the time or according to the laws of the state in which they currently reside.


42 posted on 03/09/2012 11:43:19 AM PST by greatvikingone
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To: greatvikingone

In DC area, a two million dollar house isn’t necessarily a mansion. It might be a nice house, but it probably wouldn’t qualify as something to be envious about.

But that’s not the issue we should be concerned about.


43 posted on 03/09/2012 11:47:12 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Steelfish

There is an alternate universe that somehow thinks that Santorum is not conservative. Out in the real world, you could ask a thousand non-political types: Is Santorum a Conservative? Is Gingrich a Conservative? Is Romney a moderate? and the answers would be yes to all.

It’s all picking nits.


44 posted on 03/09/2012 11:47:28 AM PST by magritte (Gladys Knight: Mormon Siren?)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Yes, if you got another job

And if you were a former US Senator and an attorney and got another job working inside the beltway as a rainmaker on K street

And maybe if you had savings and equity from selling another property you owned for a long time

So are we envious or jealous or what?

He did not pay $2 million, that is the current tax assessment

At about the same time a relative of mine bought a typical suburban 4 bedroom colonial in Mclean of 1/4 acre lot.
$600K. Gee now he’s a millionaire too


45 posted on 03/09/2012 11:47:53 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: greatvikingone

In your argument, no serving member of Congress is s resident of the state he represents

I do not know the tax code and how it treats the families of those who temporarily locate to DC while serving in Congress. I do know that Santorum paid PA state taxes and maintained an abode in PA and was for all tax purposes, a PA resident.


46 posted on 03/09/2012 11:53:59 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: silverleaf

“working inside the beltway as a rainmaker on K street”

Is that being a lobbyist?


47 posted on 03/09/2012 11:56:45 AM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Darksheare

I love Michelle Bachman, and hope she gets to run again in 2016.

I think she was treated very unfairly, both by the press and by her own party.

I don’t think this great nation will ever have a woman president. That is sad.


48 posted on 03/09/2012 12:01:32 PM PST by GracieOMalley
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To: GracieOMalley

Who do you support for THIS election?


49 posted on 03/09/2012 12:02:13 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: stevestras

“If he was from PA why did he move to Virgina after he lost his Senate reelction bid?”

Oh I dont know, maybe he wanted to hide the fact that he got a new job in Virgina and his fmaily decided to relocate permanently and stay here.

How nefarious. I am grateful that someone exposed this underhanded lack of transparency. How dare a former Senator decide to... get a job in DC and move here.

D.OH.

Do you even know how stupid that question sounds?
No, I didn’t think so.


50 posted on 03/09/2012 12:02:43 PM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Darksheare

No one.

That does not preclude me from discussing the candidates, does it?


51 posted on 03/09/2012 12:04:52 PM PST by GracieOMalley
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To: C. Edmund Wright
What I care about is that he lied in Michigan

Exactly.

I'm a long time supporter of Santorum, I've worked for his campaign, I donated money in the past and this time around as well.

Rick's problem isn't that he's wrong on the issues, it's that he's so bad at messaging: He can say something that's so right in a way that makes it sound so wrong. He makes statements that just haven't been thought out. He would get DESTROYED in the general election.

52 posted on 03/09/2012 12:06:36 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: GracieOMalley

It’s just odd that you claim that many FReepers own $2 million dollar homes, you dislike Gingrich and Santorum, and youclaim not to support anyone.
So who benefits from your sitting out?


53 posted on 03/09/2012 12:06:48 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Maybe, ask Newt.

It depends on the legal definition of “lobbyist”

If he was lobbying or otherwise trying to influence policymakers to hire or otherwise favor conservatives and conservative positions, then hooray for him. I hope he succeeded. That’s what some lobbyists do, you know, they
work for what we believe in.


54 posted on 03/09/2012 12:08:25 PM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Steelfish
Oh please. The suspicious mortgage problem has been around for Santorum going back to his Senate days. It's been dusted off now that he's moved towards the spotlight.

I've warned about the topic for over a month.

Finally, he might get some vetting! Given the push for Santorum on FR, his supporters had better want to know what it is they're backing for the nomination.

If Rick Perry's land deals or Obama's mortgages are "fair game" (both have been on FR) then so is Santorum's real estate dealing. "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" is no way to choose a nominee. It needs to be all out in the open and the sooner, the better for all concerned.

55 posted on 03/09/2012 12:10:23 PM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum: 18-point loss, voted for Sotomayor, proposed $550M on top of $900M Amtrak budget...)
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To: silverleaf

It was definitely a Democrat political enemy who picked up on it, but on the other hand, he did lie about it. He didn’t live in that house and it wasn’t his PA residence. He owned the house and had lived in it a long time ago, but had rented it out since then.


56 posted on 03/09/2012 12:13:07 PM PST by livius
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To: GracieOMalley

My wife and I own six properties. All of them are held in a trust. Anybody with a net worth over a million and who has not put his assets into a trust is a fool.


57 posted on 03/09/2012 12:14:00 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Darksheare

Probably no one, since I am in a blue state which will go to Obama anyway.

It’s a state where the dead vote.


58 posted on 03/09/2012 12:16:39 PM PST by GracieOMalley
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To: Steelfish

Don’t worry, they’ll stop right after Santorum does the right thing for the country.......dropping out.


59 posted on 03/09/2012 12:17:21 PM PST by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
“What I care about is that he lied in Michigan, talking about how the value has gone down...”
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Hi CEW-

You didn't quite get that right; Santorum’s house did decline in value (25% according to the article); however, Santorum did misrepresent his situation by claiming that his mortgage is “underwater.”

It appears Santorum was able to obtain a series of financial arrangements not usually available to those of us on “Main Street.” After his home declined in value, he was able to refinance his “underwater” mortgage at 4% so that now he does not owe more than the house is worth and he is in absolutely no danger of losing his home.

Now nothing about all of this is illegal; and I don't fault Rick for getting the best “deal” that was available to him; however, I still believe he frequently misrepresents himself to the voters as being “one of us.” He isn't; he's a well to do, D.C. insider who has used his power and influence for personal gain whenever it suited him.

At least Newt has apologized and tried to make amends for his sins; Rick still seems to be too enchanted w/his own illusion to submit to that level of introspection and remorse.

60 posted on 03/09/2012 12:18:01 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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