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PLEASE - Speak Now or Forever Hold Your Peace
Butterdezillion

Posted on 03/08/2012 8:03:47 AM PST by butterdezillion

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To: tomkat

Odd, I have no problems with firefox...


61 posted on 03/08/2012 7:12:40 PM PST by Danae (Fapp Mfx, tat xhr toagd xhro humeqagc qhtmx??)
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To: Danae
Ummm hummmm Yeah. NY Times was all over that OP Ed.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. It was either the Times or Pravda?

62 posted on 03/08/2012 7:19:05 PM PST by Kleon
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Jim Robinson

His reply:

Northeast Intelligence Network has threatened to sue us if our posters quote their “work.”
Jim

You’d think they’d be glad to have people link to their work though, wouldn’t you? How else would people be directed to their site?


63 posted on 03/08/2012 7:20:25 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Jim Robinson

His reply:

Northeast Intelligence Network has threatened to sue us if our posters quote their “work.”
Jim

You’d think they’d be glad to have people link to their work though, wouldn’t you? How else would people be directed to their site?


64 posted on 03/08/2012 7:20:36 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Kleon

The times does not take op ed’s very often from people who are not national figures. The editorial process is hideous if you don’t fit into their pidgeon hole. This is true for a lot of American publications. And believe me, if you are discussing Barrys credentials and qualifications for POTUS, you will NOT get published. If you aren’t trying to publish in the states, then you don’t know just how hard it is. Pravda is a pleasure to deal with comparatively. If you don’t mind the time difference that is. Then your work gets picked up world wide, and gets brought into the US market that way.

Literally I am going around the MSM roadblocks. Otherwise, publish what the American MSM wants you to, and that falls into a small and narrow field. No thanks, I am not interested in conforming to a set of what amounts to censorship rules.

Ask yourself why the MSM isn’t discussing the fact that Law Enforcement officials have discovered that Barack Obama walked up the the White House Press Room Podium waving a forged document. Exactly.


65 posted on 03/08/2012 7:26:19 PM PST by Danae (Fapp Mfx, tat xhr toagd xhro humeqagc qhtmx??)
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To: butterdezillion

I will push this in TN.


66 posted on 03/08/2012 8:13:59 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Danae
Pravda is a pleasure to deal with comparatively. If you don’t mind the time difference that is. Then your work gets picked up world wide, and gets brought into the US market that way.

I don't see many articles from anti-American, anti-capitalist Pravda getting picked up in the United States. Maybe it's because I'm a conservative, and I don't usually frequent websites where such material would be published.

67 posted on 03/08/2012 8:37:25 PM PST by Kleon
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To: Danae
Ask yourself why the MSM isn’t discussing the fact that Law Enforcement officials have discovered that Barack Obama walked up the the White House Press Room Podium waving a forged document. Exactly.

It's my understanding that the people who supposedly investigated this weren't actual law enforcement.

68 posted on 03/08/2012 8:41:18 PM PST by Kleon
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To: butterdezillion

BFL


69 posted on 03/08/2012 8:55:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: eyedigress

Thank you. It is imperative that we not give up now. This is the battle for civilization itself.

More on that at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2856546/posts?page=30#30


70 posted on 03/09/2012 8:23:43 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Kleon

BS. YOur “understanding” is wrong, and whoever led you to that needs to be raked over the coals because the information is readily available all over the place: They were retired law enforcement officials (police detectives) who had first been trained by the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office and then deputized.

And if you had listened to the presser that you claim to be knowing about you would have heard Mike Zullo say they were only able to get the postal stamp that they mutilated in order to duplicate the draft registration’s forged postal stamp because they operated with the authority of the Sheriff.

This was a legitimate law enforcement body. All the excuses that “only nutjobs believe any of this stuff”/ “no credible authority has verified these claims” are unadulterated bullcrap.

Mike Zullo also said at the presser that for the first month of the investigation he was adamant that they were going to prove that what Obama presented was genuine, but that the evidence just wouldn’t allow them to go that way.


71 posted on 03/09/2012 8:32:23 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
They were retired law enforcement officials (police detectives)

I've only heard about Mike Zullo, who is always referred to as a "detective," but one can be a private detective outside of law enforcement. Considering it's never been stated which department he worked for, I find this to be the most likely explanation.

72 posted on 03/09/2012 9:01:53 AM PST by Kleon
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To: Kleon

Lame. Every article I’ve seen that talks about the posse refers to them as “retired law enforcement officers”. Zullo was previously in NJ law enforcement.

Incredible, that you would trust the “findings” of the 2 Factcheck creeps (who we now know did NOT see/photograph a document that had a seal already on it) but not somebody who was deputized by Sheriff Joe.

Says loads about how you analyze sources for credibility.


73 posted on 03/09/2012 9:20:36 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Lame. Every article I’ve seen that talks about the posse refers to them as “retired law enforcement officers”. Zullo was previously in NJ law enforcement.

Is there any evidence for that? It seems to me that everyone is just assuming this "detective" was in law enforcement.

Incredible, that you would trust the “findings” of the 2 Factcheck creeps

I've never needed to rely on Factcheck, since the State of Hawaii has confirmed the validity of these documents. If they had said the documents were fake and they never printed them, then you wouldn't need to rely on Sheriff Arpaio's crack team of birthers.

74 posted on 03/09/2012 9:32:56 AM PST by Kleon
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To: Kleon

Show me one place where the State of Hawaii ever said exactly what specific document for Obama was genuine. If they ever said it was what was posted on the WH website then they are guilty of fraud themselves and not just the misprision of fraud that they pretty much have to be guilty of already.

And you surely realize that you’re dealing with the same HDOH that has been proven to have included legally non-valid records on their 1960-64 birth index list which was the basis for Fukino’s claim that Obama was born in Hawaii (according to Deputy AG Jill Nagamine).

This is the same state government that refuses to give a guy a copy of his SISTER’S long-form birth certificate, even though he is expressly authorized to receive it in HRS 338-18(b) and Hawaii’s UIPA says that unless access to a record is forbidden by law it MUST be disclosed.

IOW, we are dealing with utterly lawless people in Hawaii. That is blatant at this point.


75 posted on 03/09/2012 10:18:41 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Kleon

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.wnd.com/2011/09/345685/&sa=U&ei=M0paT6q0JJCPsAKs5bTVDQ&ved=0CBYQFjAD&usg=AFQjCNHVCUHMfanvm03XFp0lUHPjiuUf0w

A quote:

“The posse, under the authority of Arpaio’s office, will consist of two former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys, headed by Michael Zullo, a retired police detective originally from Bergen County, N.J.”


76 posted on 03/09/2012 10:29:21 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I was thinking more along the lines of their actual credentials.


77 posted on 03/09/2012 10:43:09 AM PST by Kleon
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To: Kleon

That is really deliciously hypocritical, coming from somebody who cares not one whit about the “credentials” of the man who holds the nuclear football.

You’ll do ANYTHING to dance around the evidence and facts. Not gonna dance with you, Kleon. It’s a waste of time. You go ahead and do a rectal exam of Zullo while taking it in the shorts from Obama (whose every record is fraudulent) at every opportunity. I’ve got better things to do.


78 posted on 03/09/2012 11:22:18 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
That is really deliciously hypocritical, coming from somebody who cares not one whit about the “credentials” of the man who holds the nuclear football.

I did care, but I was satisfied with the short-form certificate released a long time ago, as were most people.

79 posted on 03/09/2012 1:16:23 PM PST by Kleon
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To: butterdezillion
And just to clarify, I don't mean I want to see their certificates or anything; all I want is some clarification on what what kind of detective he was, and if it in law enforcement, what police force he's from.

If I said I put together a team of experts that said the birth certificate was legit, you would ask what kind of experts they are and the extent of their expertise. Anyone doing an investigation who wants to be taken seriously should put that stuff forward to begin with.

80 posted on 03/09/2012 1:23:54 PM PST by Kleon
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