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1 posted on 03/07/2012 6:40:02 AM PST by Strategy
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I would be surprised but that would be good


2 posted on 03/07/2012 6:47:27 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Other news reports indicate that Israel has already received
the 30K MOPs; that O told Netanyahu the MOPs may not destroy the underground facilities; the alternative is to seal the shafts and entries into the facilities and slowly kill off the occupants.

BTW O inherited the improved MOPs from Bush.


3 posted on 03/07/2012 6:50:48 AM PST by Tuketu (The Dim Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. We need a solvent)
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“may”?

I thought we already did?

http://www.npr.org/2011/09/24/140773755/u-s-sells-bunker-busters-to-israel

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/09/23/president-obama-secretly-approved-transfer-of-bunker-buster-bombs-to-israel.html


4 posted on 03/07/2012 6:52:54 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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The Iranian facilities are so far underground that short of a bunker-busting nuke nothing may work. Obama has fought for 6 years from keeping an attack on the Iranian facility and for those 6 years the Iranians have dug deeper and deeper knowing the likes of Obama won't be in office forever.
6 posted on 03/07/2012 7:02:57 AM PST by tobyhill (Fight Fire With Fire)
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9 posted on 03/07/2012 7:10:32 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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I wonder how many of those bombs will actually go off when dropped?

The Emperor of the USSA wouldn’t sell his friend Bibi a bunch of DUDs, would he?

Obama might be capable of taqiyya, but hudna? Naaaaah....

Israel can TRUST Obama; he’s not LIKE the OTHERS! /s

It will probably take an act of G*D to dislodge the Madhi worshipers... this might be interesting to watch.


10 posted on 03/07/2012 7:14:09 AM PST by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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The MOP is huge, so huge only the B-52 and the B-2 can carry it.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/mopping-up-the-usas-30000-pound-bomb-03172/

I suspect news reports like this one are to provide a smoke-screen/cover for US actions in support an attack on Iran. You see, in my guess and the way I would do it, the US would fly the B-2 (low profile) as part of an Israeli attack. The US B-2 drops the MOP that destroys the deeply buried bunkers/facilities while at the same time the Israelis attack the entrances of the buried Iranian nuclear facilities to entomb the rest.


15 posted on 03/07/2012 7:34:14 AM PST by Hulka
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Not complaining about your post in any way, but this is an example of how bad journalism has become.

They are simply reporting rumors of what might happen.

It’s like “Sun may come up in East tomorrow!”


16 posted on 03/07/2012 7:34:26 AM PST by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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Big talk in the run-up to the election in Nov. After the election, Obama will renege.


17 posted on 03/07/2012 7:38:34 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less. Barack Obama: Have Algae, Pay More, Be Weird.)
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Here is the tactical problem:

Iran is well aware of Israel’s (rightful) intentions and America’s weapons, and have up-armored every critical process in their nuclear weapons program.

Tunneling is something that Iran has always done better than any country in the world, throughout history, it’s an engineering fact.

Israel’s goal is to attack, not to necessarily succeed. A show of strength at a minimum.

America has a different challenge, we cannot participate in an attack that doesn’t win. If our bunker-busters don’t work, we lose the credibility of that weapon system.

The world will then know that anyone, N Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Myanmar, Pakistan, etc can hide evil underground.

Our military planners doubt the bunker-busters will work.

De-mystifying ground penetration bombs ends their diplomatic and strategic use.

OK, everyone will know how deep to dig.

And...Iran will learn from any failed attack that it cannot be stopped by Israel or America. They will bray like a pack of mules at the world...and be believed.

I believe that Iran wants to be attacked.


19 posted on 03/07/2012 7:46:17 AM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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25 posted on 03/07/2012 8:32:17 AM PST by 444Flyer (~Leaning on the everlasting arms~ (Deuteronomy 33:27) (John 3))
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26 posted on 03/07/2012 8:40:01 AM PST by mulder1 ("The past is prologue.")
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I thought Israel already had them.


28 posted on 03/07/2012 8:57:21 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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October Surprise coming

Have to get the Won re-elected somehow, he can’t run on his record.


32 posted on 03/07/2012 10:20:31 AM PST by hattend (Jesus wants me to make churches pay for abortions. - Barack Obama)
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There’s WAY TOO MUCH national security information going public these days. Keep the bad guys guessing!


34 posted on 03/07/2012 10:35:15 AM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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Why not a hardened whatever pointed tube with an x megaton crowdpleaser in it delivered from orbital speed with rocket boost? If nothing else, it would make a nice light show on its way to the target with a pretty good thump when it hits.


36 posted on 03/07/2012 10:45:32 AM PST by soycd
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All this talk about MOPs and the near impossibility of destroying the underground facilities with any known ordinance. Why no discussion of Israel simply nuking the Persians...
39 posted on 03/07/2012 11:09:14 AM PST by Truth29
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Send the bunker busters to Israel on board our B-2 stealth bombers, land them in Israel and let Israel send those bunker busters to Iran by airmail!
45 posted on 03/07/2012 11:54:13 AM PST by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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The facilities are so far underground, hardened, and widespread that it’s probably too late for any effective military action, MOB’s or no MOB’s.


56 posted on 03/07/2012 5:01:28 PM PST by chessplayer
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(Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...)
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(Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...)
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(Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...)
Bomb Ira-a-an!
(Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...)
With Shock and Awe, they will be reelin'.
More oil, we'll be stealin'.
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Still pissed at France, 'cause they wouldn't dance.
Gonna bomb Iran, re-election to enhance.
Let's bomb Iran...
(Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...)
(Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...)
With Shock and Awe, they will be reelin'.
More oil, we'll be stealin'.
Bomb, bomb, bomb! Bomb, bomb Iran!

Bomb, bomb, bomb! Bomb, bomb Iran!
(Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...)
Go bomb Ira-a-an!
(Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...)
Because I ca-a-an!
(Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...)
Bomb Ira-a-an!
(Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...)
With Shock and Awe, they will be reelin'.
More oil, we'll be stealin'.
Bomb, bomb, bomb! Bomb, bomb Iran!


57 posted on 03/07/2012 5:22:20 PM PST by crosshairs
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