Posted on 03/06/2012 9:18:04 PM PST by LonelyCon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv13ZnkpWos
This past afternoon, I voted for Gingrich in Massachusetts, hoping to push him past the 15% threshold for proportional delegate allocation. Turns out he got 4.7% (Mittens got 72% and all the delegates). Voting for Dr. Paul would have been a better bet!
Whichever candidate we might prefer, Santorum is right. In most states yesterday, Romney lost 60+ percent of the voters, but ended up winning the evening.
Gingrich and Santorum are killing each other.
All they are doing now, and all they have done to this point, is assure the nomination of Romney who can barely get a third of republicans behind him.
Republican conservatives have a death wish.
The Santorum camp doesn’t want a conservative solution to the economic problem.
rather have Santorum than Romney...and Santorum is whupin’ Newt..
Newt needs to leave...
if he does not we get Romney and ergo we get zer0bama back for 4 more years....
That’s ridiculous. The assumption is that they would then vote for Santorum? No way.
I don’t think Santorum’s any better than Romney, frankly, and would be an equally weak or weaker candidate against Obama. He’s not conservative in anything except his social positions (where he will have no appeal outside of the small group of social conservatives), he’s a big government, GOP-E person, and frankly I think he’s dishonest and unlikeable.
I think the stunt where he lied about his residence to “home school” his kids and then let the state of PA pay the $50,000 fine for him his typical of his morality. He thinks he’s special, and he feels the government should support his specialness.
So that says Santorum’s hate - his ego - is more important to him than being pro life and being for traditional marriage.
That’s the real Santorum - his actions show - these issues he is running on are BOGUS!! He’ll sell out just to make ‘himself’ feel better right down to basic issues he’s running on today.
And you consider that conservative? That’s a liar, that’s someone who is run on his baby ass feelings FIRST and foremost! That’s the mindset of liberal and a child.
And the furthest from a conservative and Patriot.
Slick Rick is a whiny phoney - not fit for the highest office in the land. And he’s duped his voters and America.
Santorum should have taken one for the team and dropped out. Newt would have crushed Romney with his 37%.
Let Newt stay in--it won't matter anyway.
And those positions really mean nothing to him and NOT strong on - He campaigned and voted for PRO ABORTION and ANTI-traditional Mitt in '08 because of a candidate he didn't like - his 'feelings' reign with him. He's all about Rick and runs things according to feelings and not what is right.
He'll sell out on a dime and HE PROVED IT. A liar is a liar and he wears that label by his own actions.
NEWT already earned it years ago! POS Rick is a liar and is NOT running on his record (it's pathetic) but to help Mitt to win. He's lying his way through and duping Americans.
I'm painfully aware that there are problems with Rick Santorum’s record. He's not a hard-right strict economic conservative. His stances on economic policy are about what would be expected from a Republican in a heavily unionized traditional Democrat state — it is not reasonable to expect an elected official to ignore his constituents. Also, speaking as a Calvinist whose economic views are also framed by my religious beliefs, I cannot expect a Roman Catholic conservative to defy the teachings of his own church on economics. I'm a hard-right capitalist because I'm a Calvinist who believes in what is sometimes called the “Protestant work ethic.” The Roman Catholic church teaches very different things from what I believe, and as long as Santorum is a member of the Roman Catholic Church, he **SHOULD** believe what his church teaches.
However, some of the items on Marguerite's list don't make sense from a conservative perspective.
Somebody explain why, from a conservative perspective, it is wrong for Santorum to attend a conservative Roman Catholic church along with Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia whose priest is a member of Opus Dei, which is roughly a Roman Catholic equivalent to Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority or Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition.
Somebody explain why, from a conservative perspective, anybody should care that Rick Santorum attends a Latin Mass. That's his own business, and as long as he's attending a church where the Latin Mass is authorized by the local bishop, all it shows is Santorum is a strictly conservative Catholic.
Somebody explain why, from a conservative perspective, it is wrong for Santorum to oppose increases in the minimum wage.
Somebody explain why, from a conservative perspective, it is wrong to be a supporter of Wal-Mart, which, by the way, is strongly anti-union and routinely gets targeted for attacks by unions.
Somebody explain why, from a conservative perspective, it is wrong for Santorum to support tort reform to make lawsuits more difficult — especially since Santorum is himself a lawyer.
Somebody explain why, from a conservative perspective, it is wrong to push for eliminating the estate tax, which, by the way, would disproportionately benefit not Wal-Mart but rather small business owners who own unincorporated businesses and whose heirs could be forced to sell their parents’ business if they die unexpectedly.
Somebody explain why, from a conservative perspective, it is wrong to promote coal plants which could eliminate or even reduce dependence on foreign oil. I am very leery of government getting involved in economic incentives to business, but if there's anything that the government **SHOULD** be promoting, it's things like this which have a clear national security benefit.
Looks to me like this list of complaints about Santorum includes some items which are actually reasons to vote for him.
Somebody in Gingrich's campaign can verify this quicker than me, but I strongly suspect that Newt Gingrich is also an opponent of increasing the minimum wage, a supporter of tort reform, and an opponent of the estate tax. If so, good for Gingrich. What's Mitt Romney's stance on those issues?
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83 posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:01:47 AM by SatinDoll
7. The defender of family values was also slavish in his devotion to a large American corporate behemoth, Wal-Mart: In the wake of the report about Santorums travel in the Wal-Mart corporate jet, I counted the many ways that Santorum had done the bidding of the worlds largest retailer in the Senate, including battling to limit any increases in the minimum wage and seeking to make changes in overtime rules that woulld benefit the company and hurt its blue-collar workforce, tort reform to limit lawsuits against what is said to be the worlds most-sued company, and changes in charitable giving laws and of course eliminating the estate tax that would benefit the billionaire heirs of Sam Walton.
8. Santorum has frequently insisted that his political values are guided by his religious values, and that John F. Kennedys famous 1960 speech describing a separtion between the two had done much harm in America. But despite inviting such scrutiny, theres been little discussion of Santorums ties to ultra-conservative movements within the Roman Catholic Church Santorums comments about JFK were made in Rome in 2002 when he spoke at a 100th birthday event for Jose Maria Escrivade Balaguer, founder of the secretive group within the church known as Opus Dei. Although Santorum says he is not a member of Opus Dei which has been criticized by some for alleged cult-like qualities and ties to ultra-conservative regimes around the world he did receive written permission to attend the ultra-conservative St. Catherine of Siena Church in Great Falls, Va., where Mass is still conducted in Latin and a long-time priest and many parishioners are members of Opus Dei, mingling with political conservatives like Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and former FBI director Louis Freeh.
I'd like to think the phone calls I made to my fellow Tennesseans helped put Santorum over the top.....but he topped it off by a very comfortable margin, and my phone calls were just a small part....Makes me proud.
“Rick Santorum’s campaign is calling on conservatives to pressure Newt Gingrich to abandon his bid for the White House, a senior adviser told reporters tonight.”
It says it all right there. He wants to know why a REAL conservative would stay in the race.
Ridiculous!
Newt is no one's puppet. And if he were any establishments puppet, don't who think he would have some establishment support.
Newt is the anti-establishment candidate.
I don’t care about any of the crap. Its simple math.
In Florida, Santorum took less than Gingrich lost by. In Michigan Santorum lost by 3 and Gingrich took twice that. In Ohio, Santorum lost by 1 and Gingrich took double digits. Aside from winning Georgia last night, Gingrich finished no better than 3rd in the rest of the races.
Frankly, anyone who really believes Gingrich is going to come roaring back for the big win isn’t being honest with themselves.
Its no secret that I don’t like Gingrich but I do think he would be nearly ideal for a VP pick. He’s strong willed enough that he would have considerable influence in a Santorum administration and he has experience in herding the cats in congress.
Not to mention the fact that Newt would destroy Biden in the VP debates.
Kinda makes me think back to when conservatives called on Santorum to endorse Pat Toomey over Arlen Specter. Santorum stabbed the conservatives in the back and endorsed Specter. Now Santorum's got the gall to ask conservatives to throw Newt under the bus. What a guy.
It’s a simple matter of voting for the most competitive conservative in your given state. I caught hell from the Newt supporters last night for saying this, but it cuts both ways. If you know that Newt is NOT going to win, then don’t be stupid and vote for him anyway. If you know Santorum is NOT going to win, then don’t be stupid and vote for him anyway.
We here need to do our due diligence and prove that we’re smart enough - and mature enough - to put defeating Barack Obama from Massachusetts as our #1 goal. We found out just recently that he lobbied Obama for Romneycare on a national level. Neither Rick nor Newt is even close to being that bad.
If Newt isn’t competitive in any of the remaining states, then yes, he should drop out, but I find that scenario hard to believe. I think it’s more likely that he and Santorum will each be popular in a few.
Frankly, a brokered convention is sounding better and better to me. I feel certain that’s the only way we’re going to stop Willard Romney the open socialist, and it might allow us to nominate someone who’s better than Santorum AND Gingrich.
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