Posted on 03/05/2012 4:51:35 PM PST by Misterioso
Alana Goodman, at the conservative site Hot Air, is quoted as saying the following about anti-pursuit of happiness candidate Rick Santorum:
Wheres the conservative outrage? If Santorums comments arent nanny state-ism in its purest form, then what is? If youre a conservative and you give Santorum a pass on this, you forego any future right to complain about liberals taking away your Happy Meals and trans fats.
Goodman is referring to Santorums recent and past comments that freedom as specified in the U.S. Constitution is not absolute, and that government policy must take a position on birth control, abortion, and private activities by consenting adults if the government deems them immoral.
I agree with Goodmans sentiment entirely. However, shes missing an important point. Most of these social conservatives who support Santorum have no problem with government regulating things they consider immoral.
Doesnt she get it? This is what social conservatives and Obama liberals have in common: Each wants their version of morality and religion to enjoy the force of law.
Liberals believe its immoral for people to make too much money, and for human beings to use natural resources to better their own lives.
Socialism and environmentalism are the two religions animating the Democratic Party. Similarly, elements of the Republican Party are animated by the religion of fundamentalist Christianity. Fundamentalists believe that fun and happiness should be limited by government not just when they get in the way of somebodys legitimate rights to be free from force or fraud, but even when they dont.
If Santorum wins the Republican Party nomination, then people who want a limited government will quite literally have no place to go. They must choose between the imposition of liberal religion, or traditional religion. A choice between the God of Rick Santorums imagination, or the secular God of Barack Obamas socialist-fascist state.
You can judge for yourselves which side is worse, but I refuse to make that choice.
Santorum, and the people he represents, are sick puppies. They cannot stand the idea that anyone is having sex in a context or manner which they personally find offensive or disgusting. Were not talking about rape or sexual abuse here, but any sex of which they dont approve.
Imagine the mindset and mentality of a person who has such things on his mind. Do you really want somebody like this with control of the military and the entire federal government?
This is no endorsement of Obama, of course. And its no endorsement of Mitt Romney, who is more on Obamas side than on Santorums on most issues. But the real crisis in America is that, at present, we have no political movement on the side of individual rights. Obama wants government to control all economic activity, while Santorum wants government to control private, personal behavior including, by some reports, the legality of gambling and other unspecified freedoms on the Internet. Each will deny he favors totalitarianism in the abstract, but each has the attitudes, impulses and in some cases positions that will lead us right to totalitarianisms front door.
The battle for Americas soul is a battle to reestablish the separation of Church and State. With Santorum, its easy to make this point clear.
Its just as important to make this point about Obama and the liberals.
The liberals are in favor of the religion of government. Government is their God, so long as the government is run by people with their socialist and environmentalist ideology. ObamaCare is to liberals what laws and constitutional amendments banning gambling, contraception and homosexuality and who knows what else are to the Santorum conservatives. Obama is after our banks, our medical care and our retirement accounts and ultimately our minds and souls. Santorum is going right for the soul but hell eventually get his hands on everything else, as well.
Its true that conservatives have no business complaining about the food police, the health care police or any other leftist police squads being organized by the Obama Administration when they themselves support a different kind of police. But the battle between liberals and conservatives has come down to: Which police (or whose police) shall police us?
Republicans and Democrats are not interested in liberty, or individual rights, or capitalism, or separation of church and state. If anybody out there still supports these things, they had better rise up against both of these parties and form a new political movement. If something worthwhile comes out of all this, then maybe America can make a new beginning. Otherwise, Obama (in a second term) is going to preside over the destruction of American life as weve known it and his only opposition will have been Rick Santorum.
I beg to differ, it is Romney who is the Republican “O”. Heck, he’s barely Republican at all. I never got the sense that Rick Santorum had any 0-like characteristics.
“...freedom as specified in the U.S. Constitution is not absolute, and that government policy must take a position on birth control, abortion, and private activities by consenting adults if the government deems them immoral...”
He actually SAID that? That’s something the libs should have jumped-on, but I didn’t hear about it. I’m surprised Mark Levin hasn’t brought that up yet.
The trashiest BS article on FR in a long time. Should be taken off.
Agree “naps.” This is total bull dressed up to look cerebral. Seems like Zot bait to me.
Heard Santorum on the radio today on Hannity and he just got really tiresome to listen to....like an ankle biter yap yap yapping... On and on..and on.
If he gets the nomination then I’ll vote for him but it will be an anti-Obama vote, not a pro-Santorum vote.
With the communists taking over the media I wonder if we’ll ever get a really good candidate again.
The use of the word fundamentalist to describe people of faith and spirituality is a sure sign you are dealing with someone who is anti-Christian and probably a leftist trying to pretend to be a Conservative.
Does the author think that killing innocent unborn children is “fun and happiness”? The the author believe that lying, violent crime and attacks on religion are “fun and happiness”? Does the author believe that running up trillions of dollars in debt to provide money to the politically connected is “fun and happiness”? Do he believe that the drug cartels and armed thugs that prey on law abiding citizens provide “fun and happiness”?
I am sick and tired of these false narratives and the dishonest attacks on people with moral values and principles.
You are right. The Constitution was not meant to be absolute in the sense used in the article. The Constitution was intended to limit the federal government’s powers to those expressly enumerated. The states were and are entitled to legislate on all but that very narrow set of issues.
You need to give examples....this guy (the author ) did and he makes a good case
Theres a word for Republicans who either ignore, or timidly stay away from social issues: RINOs.
You said...
“turd burglars”
LOL!!!
This is the stupidest thing I have read in a while. Conservatives literally don't care what others do in private. It is when they demand my money to fund their disease spreading health care needs and their uncared for children and their drug treatment and their general refusal to take responsibility for anything or contribute anything to society.
If someone promises never to steal my money they can do whatever they want. But it never works like that. They are irresponsible and talk about their right to be decadent. Then they expect me to fund the consequences of what they do.
Rick has a few O like qualities, but I’ll admit, this piece is over the top. Don’t care for RS much, but he’s not our “Obama.”
No, freedom is not absolute. You are not free to kill, steal, rape, or enslave your neighbors. Therefore, you are not free to abort your neighbors.
To argue that absolute freedom to do whatever the hell you want is “conservative” is nonsense. Libertarian, maybe.
And as we have already seen, once a sufficiently large number of citizens of any country refuse to discipline or govern themselves, then you are in the Land of Hobbes, and there will soon be a dictator and a police force to MAKE you do what they want.
It’s either self discipline or discipline from above—i.e., dictatorship.
Actually, RS has made numerous statements in his political career about sex being for procreation only. Now, while he has never indicated he would govern with that as an issue, he has stated it, and thus the article is not totally off base in bringing it up.
Not totally in correct context either.
No, just another paraphrased POS. Goodman is referring to Santorum's recent and past comments that freedom as specified in the U.S. Constitution is not absolute, and that government policy must take a position on birth control, abortion, and private activities by consenting adults if the government deems them immoral.
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