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Lawmakers secretly working on bipartisan deficit grand-bargain
The Hill ^ | 3/04/12 | Erik Wasson

Posted on 03/04/2012 1:23:09 PM PST by Libloather

Lawmakers secretly working on bipartisan deficit grand-bargain
By Erik Wasson - 03/04/12 05:30 AM ET

A small, bipartisan group of lawmakers in both the House and Senate are secretly drafting deficit grand bargain legislation that cuts entitlements and raises new revenue.

Sources said that the task of actually writing the bills is well underway, but core participants in the regular meetings do not yet know when the bills can be unveiled.

The core House group of roughly 10 negotiators is derived from a larger Gang of 100 lawmakers led by Reps. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) and Health Shuler (D-N.C.), who urged the debt supercommittee to strike a grand bargain last year.

That larger group includes GOP centrists like Rep. Steve LaTourette (R-Ohio), who has said Republicans should abandon their no-new-tax-revenue pledge, as well as Tea Party-backed members like Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.).

The key test in the coming months will be to see whether the core group can get buy-in from many of the 100 members who vaguely support “going big” on the deficit once real cuts and tax increases are identified.

The talks are so sensitive that some members involved do not yet want to be identified.

Shuler, who is retiring this year, is keen to establish a legacy as a deficit cutter before leaving Congress and he is involved in the drafting effort.

His efforts have the strong support of House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), who is actively meeting with individual Democrats to try to get them on board with finding a compromise that stabilizes the national debt.

The House members are working in tandem with Senate negotiators who are looking to turn the outline produced by the Senate’s Gang of Six into legislative language.

The goal of both groups is the same: make sure the debt is not growing bigger than the size of the economy.

The Obama 2013 budget does stabilize the debt in the latter half of the decade, but since it does not cut entitlements, the debt balloons again after 2020 due to Baby Boomer retirements.

Simpson said this week that a draft will not be ready in time to offer it as a budget resolution this spring. House leaders plan to bring a House GOP budget up for a vote on March 26.

A source close to the effort said the focus is on drafting now, and negotiators will address when to unveil the result later.

Simpson however said waiting until the lame-duck session to start negotiating a grand bargain does not make sense.

After the election, Congress will face deadline pressures to raise the debt ceiling, deal with expiring Bush-era tax rates and address automatic cuts triggered by the supercommittee’s failure. The conventional wisdom is that any politically painful choices like cutting Medicare or raising taxes has to wait until then.

“We can’t give up for a year on trying to address this problem. I think we have to do something,” Simpson said.

He said that he has personally talked about the project to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), who failed to secure a grand bargain with President Obama last summer. But he said leadership is not driving the effort at this point.

Simpson said his involvement at this stage is mainly continuing to educate members of the need to compromise and solve the looming deficit problems sooner rather than later.

The drafting, which he is not taking the lead on, is proving difficult, he said, noting that major deficit proposals in the last year involved major holes.

The president’s fiscal commission plan, crafted by former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) and Erskine Bowles, did not completely address healthcare and was vague on what tax breaks to eliminate.

“One of the problems with Bowles-Simpson, Domenici-Rivlin, Gang of Six is they’re all concepts,” Simpson said. “That’s different than trying to put things into legislative language.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bargain; bipartisan; debt; deficit; stevelatourette
Sounds like Commiecare™.
1 posted on 03/04/2012 1:23:13 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

You can bet everything that this Grand Bargain will involve the GOP caving on massive new taxes.


2 posted on 03/04/2012 1:25:44 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Where's he getting these ideas? He's not smart enough to be that stupid all by himself.)
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To: Libloather

So they can send another bill to die in the Senate? May as well wait until January 20th.


3 posted on 03/04/2012 1:26:24 PM PST by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then, the Tower of Sauron on 11.06.2012)
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To: Libloather

Home mortgage deduction will be gone in exchange for a promise of some future cut to the rate of increase of some entitlements.


4 posted on 03/04/2012 1:27:11 PM PST by icwhatudo
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5 posted on 03/04/2012 1:29:04 PM PST by narses
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To: Libloather

Home mortgage deduction will be gone in exchange for a promise of some future cut to the rate of increase of some entitlements.


6 posted on 03/04/2012 1:30:22 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: Libloather

The GOP is going to sell us out AGAIN

They really do not want to beat Obama this year


7 posted on 03/04/2012 1:35:07 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Libloather

We are so screwed


8 posted on 03/04/2012 1:42:55 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: Libloather

“The Obama 2013 budget does stabilize the debt in the latter half of the decade, but since it does not cut entitlements, the debt balloons again after 2020 due to Baby Boomer retirements.”

That is all you need to read in order to know that the author of this article does not care about truth, and that he is solidly on the side of the leftists.


9 posted on 03/04/2012 1:45:37 PM PST by Revel
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To: Libloather

“We can’t give up for a year on trying to address this problem. I think we have to do something,” Simpson said. “

Typical member of the “Stupid Party”. Do “something” even if it’s selling out to the left.


10 posted on 03/04/2012 1:59:49 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: headstamp 2
This is just another Republican Party sell out. Phony cuts that never will occur and tax increases that will, even retroactively.
Conservatives need another Real Political Party.
Vote Conservative, even if you have to write her name in.
That would be Sarah Palin.

TWB

11 posted on 03/04/2012 2:50:39 PM PST by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: Libloather

Please everyone refrain forom saying he GOP will cave or go weak in the knees, for once and for all please understand that the GOP leadership are all in with the New World Order and the one world government, they are ALL socialists/facists, every stinking one of them.


12 posted on 03/04/2012 3:03:43 PM PST by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican SOCIALISTelites, are Big Government socialists,)
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To: Libloather

We’re so screwed.


13 posted on 03/04/2012 3:09:44 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: stockpirate

What you said! We’re going down a hole. With the dems it’s sooner. With the GOP it’s later. But not much later.


14 posted on 03/04/2012 3:26:07 PM PST by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin)
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To: Libloather

Let me guess....

The cuts start 3 years from now and the revenues start now.


15 posted on 03/04/2012 3:46:18 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Libloather
"....secretly drafting deficit grand bargain legislation that cuts entitlements"

Why not cut non-entitlements first?

Stuff like welfare, food stamps other freebies to illegals.

Foreign aid to people who hate our guts.

Handouts and subsidies to worthless "green" companies.

Research grants for non-essential studies.

Cut the budget and size of most federal government departments by 1/3.

Cut out all perks and freebies for congress and put them on ObamaCare.

Eliminate all federal subsidies for the DNC and RNC nominating conventions.

Eliminate agriculture subsidies to all large agri-businesses.

ALSO, Tell General Motors that if they can hand out corporate bonuses they can pay back the $27 Billion they still owe the taxpayers.


16 posted on 03/04/2012 4:40:15 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Libloather

"That larger group includes GOP centrists like Rep. Steve LaTourette (R-Ohio), who has said Republicans should abandon their no-new-tax-revenue pledge..."

I've been warning about this jerk for a long time. Bad, bad news. He's in the thick of every bad deal the GOP has worked on since taking the House...

17 posted on 03/04/2012 5:01:16 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Huh ? Wha-? The GOP will cave ?!? Never! Never I say! /sarc.


18 posted on 03/04/2012 5:47:08 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: Libloather
Why do they persist in using this “grand bargain” language? It was anything but the last time. Just drawn to the statesmanlike grandeur of “grand?”. Delusions of grandeur is what it is.
19 posted on 03/04/2012 5:52:06 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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