Posted on 03/03/2012 8:39:08 PM PST by Steelfish
Santorum, Gingrich Target Obama at GOP Dinner in Ohio
By Seema Mehta
March 3, 2012 Bowling Green, Ohio— Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich courted GOP activists at a party dinner Saturday night, each painting a dire picture of America's straits, arguing that the nation's very soul is at stake in this upcoming election and saying that they were the candidate best suited to take on President Obama.
Santorum, who delivered a fiery speech about the nation's heritage, clearly received the warmer reaction, with the hundreds of GOP voters gathered in a university student union leaping to their feet four times during his speech to give him a standing ovation.
He said that the United States is better than all other nations because it was founded on the premise that each person is granted rights not by the government but by God.
"We declared the truth, that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. Unalienable -- you can't take them away. They were given to you because you were created by God and each one has dignity and value," Santorum said. "…Where does that concept come from? Does it come from Islam? Does it come from other cultures around the world? Are men and women treated equally? Are adults and children treated equally? No. It comes from our culture and tradition -- the Judeo-Christian ethic, that is where this comes from, this sense of equality."
But Americans' rights and liberty are doomed if Obama's healthcare law goes into effect, he said.
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Small sample alert!!!!
Southern Conservative Caucus held by TN Conservative Union:
Gingrich - 82 Santorum - 73 ..but obviously BOTH conservatives so WHY SPLIT THE VOTE?
Romney - 23
That’s right, vote for Newt!
This is more absolute LYING BALONEY because the only way anyone can criticize Newt is by lying. Does Santorum approve of you breaking one of God's commandments? Newt's got just two problems to overcome...how to deal with people constantly lying about his record and proposals and how to educate people too ignorant to understand what he says.
Newt has outlined his energy strategy in great detail and specifics, as he does with ALL of his policies, unlike his opponents. It is all about energy markets. Once the supply goes back, people won't be speculating on oil anymore. He said Middle East turmoil will NOT be a factor because we'll be making our own energy and won't need theirs. Duh! He said China and Europe will have to worry about dealing with the Middle East. He also pointed out adding supply has already worked for natural gas, prices are way down despite global demand, so there's every reason to believe it will work for oil. You also don't seem to understand that the way human beings succeed, and the way Newt succeeded beyond all expectation in his political career, is by SETTING A GOAL first, never giving up and doing whatever it takes to get there. That's now Newt won Congress after 40 years out of power and that's how he passed welfare reform.
Oh, and, we got to the moon the first time in about 10 years, didn't we?
What's Santorum's campaign slogan going to be, "No, we can't?" So inspiring...
If I remember correctly Santorum didn’t really compete in Florida. That was when he took a couple of days off to go home and do his taxes and his daughter took ill. After Newt’s implosion in Florida, I think many people realized Newt couldn’t go head to head with Romney and win, so they took another look at Santorum. Also, if I remember correctly, that was during Newt’s lashing out phase. He was angry about all the negative Romney ads and was swinging wildly and only hitting himself. We’ve already got an angry, out of control narcissist sitting in the WH - nobody wants another!
Not that it matters, but I have been contributing to Santorum since last summer. I came out in support of him, hoping that he would run, a year prior to that. I'm a long-time Santorum supporter. I haven't abandoned anyone.
Then for people like you I'll amend it to say you stayed with him after it was clear he could not win the nomination much less the presidency, but only act as a spoiler. He was only propped up by external factors all along. In Iowa by influential endorsements from religious leaders and then in February once again from a massive endorsement by religious leaders (helped also by Romney and Newt bloodying each other up during a time they left him unscathed). I know those leaders were not malicious, but the ones who voted for Santorum were totally ignorant of political reality.
Santorum's candidacy is in an irreversible death spiral now. Since he's propped up solely by external factors rather than intrinsic political skills and talents, he has no power to do anything to get his campaign back on track. The only question is whether he moves down and Newt moves up fast enough to put the conservative pro back in the driver's seat in time to secure the nomination.
There is one path to winning the nomination outright, and that is for Rick to drop out and Newt to become the one, true conservative alternative. The bottom line is, a man with the right policies to fix our nation will be acceptable to the majority of Republicans, but a man whose appeal is almost solely based on the way he led his personal, family life throughout his life (which is the only substantive point where it's even debatable that he's superior to Gingrich) will lose to Romney in a head-to-head, because that is not an issue of enough weight for a majority of conservatives.
Any more stupid than the headline for this thread? “Standing Ovations x4” Pffft... please. Did anyone count the sitting ovations? Did they wink and smile while they were doing the standing ovations... if so how many winks?
“After Newt’s implosion in Florida, I think many people realized Newt couldn’t go head to head with Romney and win, so they took another look at Santorum”
After Rick’s implosion in Michigan people are taking another look at Newt. Your point?
Washington is a very liberal state. Want Proof Ron Paul came in Second. Not sure a win here would be anything to brag about. Who knows.
But to the math.
Mittens got 18,771
RonPaul 12,248
Santorum 11,935
Newt 5,175
So in other words if EVERY single vote cast for Newt had went to Santorum. Santorum would still have come in Second.
Newt Voter in Washington did not Prevent Santorum from winning.
Santorum got 3 NONBINDING delegates being they come from Washington they will probably flip and vote Mittens in Tampa at the convention.
Why wasn't that strategy applied to Santorum up to and including Nevada, while he was in the same place in the polls you describe? Were you all just hoping Obama would make contraception an issue so Santorum could play the one policy card where he could distinguish himself from the other candidates? It's surprising how eager you all are to give Obama the one candidate he wants to run against, as evidenced by liberals trying to get out the vote for him in Michigan.
Why don’t you point to one single economist or energy specialist who has written to confirm Newt’s idea o $2.50 gas/gallon? You’d fine NONE.
If you believe in permanent moon-based colonies within 8 years, may be Newt should make a primetime speech to convince the nation of this. No one views this seriously except lunatics.
I just have one question about Newt’s Mars mission. This is a serious question, not trying to be snarky. Newt’s idea is to use the private sector to finance his Moon base and eventual trip to Mars. Now, if the government isn’t going to help finance it, why would the President and/or the Congress have to be involved? I would think if the private sector saw value in the project they would be working on it already. So, my question is: What role does the government play? Does Congress have to approve space exploration for the private sector?
Who in the hell do you think you are to malign me for questioning your motives when YOUR OWN PEOPLE just did it to us in this very thread? Unless you just admitted your own position in support of Santorum is bankrupt, since I was simply responding to this comment by jellybean:
Every time you bash Santorum Mitt Romney gains another percentage point. Is Mitt paying you well?
You're seriously calling that Romney rag The National Review "conservative?" You're not going to win any fans here doing that. And you lend credibility to my questioning your true motives here. They have been marching in lockstep with Ann Coulter for a long time on Mitt now and have been ridiculed on FR constantly. I suspect a large donation to their fundraising page helped to sway them. The entire obvious plan by the RINO media in February was to pump up Santorum and use him as a spoiler against Newt, and it seems to be working thanks to people like yourself. Establishment Republicans have been aligned in lockstep to elect Romney, and even more and more prominent conservatives are throwing in the towel and coming on board. That's why the grass roots truly needs to be united to turn this thing around.
Regardless of all the machinations that have gone on in the campaign so far, Santorum has now come off as an unelectable flake and a marble-mouthed lightweight. The left-wing is openly trying to get him to be the nominee because they know they can beat him. Newt on the other hand has been coming off as a statesmen, a general who can lead our country in a time of international and domestic crisis, and a great thinker with the best and boldest plans and the track record of pulling out all the stops to make big change happen. He is obviously the guy who has what it takes to truly convince the people of this country he should be the next president in a general election.
Yes, Obama has been gearing up to run against Mitt since last year. Why do you insist on helping him?
Which is why I'm voting for Newt and not Romney. I want someone who is a leader on rolling back liberal judicial activism, someone who understand the war against Christianity going on in this country, someone who will protect a church's right to their conscience, someone who will protect a health care worker's right to not distribute medicine they deem morally offensive, someone who has pledged to pass an amendment banning homosexual marriage, someone who passed partial-birth abortion bills, someone who will reinstate Reagan's Mexico City policy, someone with a 98-99% pro-life voting record. Best of all, I want someone who can EXPLAIN why these views are so vitally important to the survival of this nation. No one can explain and sell his policies better than Newt. You don't sell the country on moral issues by talking like a televangelist preacher.
No, he comes off as another college professor lecturing us - just like Obama. I'm not comparing the policy positions of the two. Just their demeanor.
I live two hours outside Detroit. The local news interviewed person after person after person (all Democrats) that voted for Santorum. They were organized by Democrat strategist Joe DiSano, and voted for Eick because they thought Obama would cream him.
Rick.
After Newt’s implosion in Florida, I think many people realized Newt couldn’t go head to head with Romney and win
If people are that fickle and that focused on inconsequential things rather than what we're supposed to be focused on, WHO WOULD BE THE BEST PRESIDENT, then no wonder the race is so confused. It's been the RINO media's goal all along to force people not to use their own judgment, but to vote for Mitt simply because he "can win," creating a self-fulfilling prophecy out of whole cloth, in the primary at least. Quite a shame that so many Republican sheeple have swallowed this logic hook, line and sinker and are constantly voting on "electability" rather than picking who would be the best president and fighting for them. Obama won because his base picked who they thought the best president would be and voted for them. Voting "electability" gets us candidates like Kerry and McCain.
...if I remember correctly, that was during Newt’s lashing out phase. He was angry about all the negative Romney ads and was swinging wildly and only hitting himself.
I never saw any of this. Could you paste in some video links?
We’ve already got an angry, out of control narcissist sitting in the WH - nobody wants another!Right, what we need is a charming, thoughtful, brilliant, self-deprecating, high-achieving thinker, doer and leader in the White House, Newt Gingrich.
LOL, please point me to the economists and energy specialists who say that gas will never be down to $2.50 a gallon again. If you want to battle it out with dueling experts, bring something to the table before you lay down a challenge. In fact, the WSJ argued that it's a risky political strategy for Gingrich solely because gas prices might fall that low even before he's president. I'll grant them that. But the reality is Gingrich is doing so well taking on Obama, that Obama is already forced to go out there and defend himself and even seems to be buckling on some policy matters. Newt could actually see his policies put in place before he's even president solely because he wins the argument against Obama in the court of public opinion. That's just how good and brilliant a politician he is. It's how he was so successful dealing with Clinton and why he will run a winning campaign against Obama in the fall.
If you believe in permanent moon-based colonies within 8 years, may be Newt should make a primetime speech to convince the nation of this. No one views this seriously except lunatics.
You would have given Christopher Columbus the pink slip too. As far as I'm concerned, you and your favored "no, we can't" politicians can take your lack of faith in American exceptionalism and stick it where the moon don't shine.
You write:
“Newt on the other hand has been coming off as a statesmen, a general who can lead our country in a time of international and domestic crisis, and a great thinker with the best and boldest plans and the track record of pulling out all the stops to make big change happen. He is obviously the guy who has what it takes to truly convince the people of this country he should be the next president in a general election.”
Thankfully that’s just your opinion. Go check the voting in MN, MO, CO, AZ, MI, WA, and NV and see for yourself Gingrich’s last place standing. This is a new notion of being “obviously” the guy to be the next president.
National Review, to my knowledge, has not officially endorsed anyone and there are several fine conservative contributors that includes Prof. Tom Sowell and several others. You seem to have a habit of attacking individuals and respectable magazines rather than taking on the debate in a serious and intelligent manner.
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