Posted on 03/01/2012 9:16:11 PM PST by neverdem
America's self-proclaimed toughest sheriff finds himself entangled these days in his own thorny legal troubles: a federal grand jury probe over alleged abuse of power, Justice Department accusations of racial profiling and revelations that his department didn't adequately investigate hundreds of Arizona sex-crime cases.
Rather than seek cover, though, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is seeking to grab the spotlight in the same unorthodox fashion that has helped boost his career as a nationally known lawman.
Arpaio on Thursday unveiled preliminary results of an investigation, conducted by members of his volunteer cold-case posse, into the authenticity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate, a controversy that has been widely debunked but which remains alive in the eyes of some conservatives...
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I have ADD and have not read all the treads on this. Having said that, we already knew the BC was forged. Anything new out of this?
Your points are all correct.
Remember Tim Adams say that he called the two hospitals (Queens and Kap) in Hawaii himself. Both told him that they had no record of his birth there. He’s signed an affidavit saying as much.
Nothing Obama provided can be real since he wasn’t born in either hospital. Hawaii can’t give him any birth certificate that says he was born in either hospital.
What’s new is that a sitting Sheriff has said probable cause exists to open a full criminal investigation.
This SHOULD make it easier to contest Obama’s eligibility. That seems to be the only place where citizens have standing.
Thanks for being there and reporting about it.
The DOJ - the most criminal enterprise in America.
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You’ve got some nerve mocking Butter. Why don’t you go back to posting at Fogbutt?
Your posts are clearly visible since you use the same name.
Fraud and forgery are just fine by you. You are such a phoney.
Do you hold out any hope for a successful resolution to this case?
“a federal grand jury probe over alleged abuse of power, Justice Department accusations of racial profiling ..”
Hows that for you! “Abuse of power” lets talk about it: ... the Federal Government confiscation and intimidation, bailouts, GM, EPA, plant shutdowns, Federal salaries and huge pensions, QE1 QE2, etc.,
And “discrimination” they love to use that word. How about the entire Arbeitsziehungslager-Shackle Care, where they have blatantly discriminated by exempting themselves. And discriminated by selectiion of who gets waivers.
Abuse of Power.
“a federal grand jury probe over alleged abuse of power, Justice Department accusations of racial profiling ..”
Hows that for you! “Abuse of power” lets talk about it: ... the Federal Government confiscation and intimidation, bailouts, GM, EPA, plant shutdowns, Federal salaries and huge pensions, QE1 QE2, etc.,
And “discrimination” they love to use that word. How about the entire Arbeitsziehungslager-Shackle Care, where they have blatantly discriminated by exempting themselves. And discriminated by selectiion of who gets waivers.
Abuse of Power.
This is gaining traction, Brett at FoxNews Grapevine: Arpaio takes aim at Obama's birth certificate
I can tell that my Google alerts on this subject has exploded!
I sensed that Arpaio did not want to connect the dots to Obama’s eligibility. Did I miss something?
Thanks for the links.
Three of them each crashed my computer so I wasn’t able to see what they said. The other two were basically copies of each other, where all that was said (besides Arpaio pursuing discredited conspiracy theories and being investigated by the Dept of Injustice) was that Arpaio says the BC may be a forgery. The Chicago Tribune adds the following as the only actual statements regarding EVIDENCE presented:
“The sheriff’s office presented six videos which it said
raised doubts about the authenticity of the date stamp on
Obama’s birth certificate and Selective Service Registration
Card, among other issues.”
That’s it. This is worse than pathetic. They are totally burying this news. Which we knew they would do, because they’ve been threatened into burying it. These articles all follow the same boilerplate and actually spend more time on the DOJ accusations against Arpaio and/or Obama’s quotes to try to discredit this investigation than anything about the press conference or the posse’s evidence. These are hit-pieces designed by the White House and parroted by the “news media” as if it had anything to do with what actually happened yesterday afternoon.
Disgusting.
Sincerely,
TXnMA
Yeah. Here is what I tried to post at Slate (and they wouldn’t let me post it):
How about actually reporting the content of what was said, Mr Weigel? Some tidbits:
Multiple certified document examiners have examined the online BC for the posse and concluded that it was a forgery.
A controlled experiment (the results of which can be seen at http://www.teapartypowerhour.com/videos ) showed that OCR does not explain the layers in the long-form birth certificate - particularly since there are too few layers and they were added systematically rather than randomly.
The certifying marks were added to an existing document and were systematically created so that the whole registrar’s certification (for instance) can be moved around on the page. This means that there was no certification scanned and this forgery was not made from a certified record.
The posse knows where the electronic file of the forged BC was 20 minutes before it was uploaded onto the White House website. They have a person of interest who is suspected of committing the forgery.
The draft registration had a 2-digit postal date stamp though every genuine postal stamp from that exact post office in 1980 has 4 digits. The ‘80 stamp itself was made by taking a 2008 date stamp, cutting it apart, and turning it upside-down. Duplicate stamps that could be cut apart like that are only available to law enforcement, which disturbingly suggests that someone in law enforcement assisted in this forgery.
Out of 10 years of requested INS microfilms at the National Archives, passenger lists from flights in & out of the US were only missing for Aug 1-7, 1961. The National Archives had no explanation for why those dates were missing.
They have an affidavit of a government employee saying he was in the home of Bill Ayers when Ayers’ mother introduced Obama as a foreign student they were helping get an American education.
The posse has much, much more evidence than was presented at the press conference. The investigation is ongoing, though Sheriff Joe will need to decide how to further pursue the issue, as the posse has recommended a full criminal investigation into these forgeries. At this point, there has been no genuine evidence offered regarding Obama’s birth facts.
Andrew Breitbart’s last interview was the evening (several hours) before he died, with Sheriff Joe Arpaio, regarding the findings of the Cold Case Posse. Jerry Corsi mentioned that in passing, as he expressed condolences to Andrew’s family.
While agree with you and can relate to your frustration, this is a leap in the right direction. What Joe needs to do is a follow up news conference in a month or so. Keep this in the dim light as long as possible.
And for the record I will contribute to this cause.
The media tried to get both Joe and Mike to say that Obama committed forgery and fraud. What they were careful to say was that we don’t know who did what and so we need to investigate some more until we know those answers.
One reporter claimed that they are not stupid (to which I lol’ed) and that if Obama said that what was posted on the White House website was his real BC and the posse says it’s a forgery it means that Obama committed fraud. Both Joe and Mike just said, basically, “We’re not saying that. You can make your own conclusions.” (and of course, that is the natural conclusion a person would have to make - but it is the EVIDENCE that leads one to conclude that. It is the EVIDENCE that accuses Obama, not either of those guys. Those guys are saying we need more evidence so we know exactly who did what and why.
The conclusion they reached is that there has been no genuine evidence presented to support Obama’s birth claims, and the flight passenger lists which would address the question of whether his mother was in the country on Aug 4, 1961 have gone missing without explanation - just that week, out of 10 years’ worth of records.
The posse didn’t go into this, but both Dr. Conspiracy and Jeff Otherson have requested the index cards of passports issued to Obama’s mother - which are required to be publicly disclosed upon request, are microfilmed in alphabetical order and required to be retained permanently. It would probably take 5 minutes to locate what these 2 guys are requesting. But the Passport Office will not respond to the requests. We know she had a passport that pre-dated 1967 when she traveled with Lolo Soetoro but the Passport Office steadfastly refuses to find anything from before that for her.
Sort of like the National Archive, which is missing just that 1 week of international flight passenger records...
And Mike did mention that they have an affidavit of a government worker who says that Bill Ayers’ mother introduced Barack Obama to him as a foreign student that they were helping to get an American education.
So there’s no evidence supporting a US birth, the records which would show where his mother was on Aug 4, 1961 are mysteriously missing, and Bill Ayers’ mom said Obama was a foreign student...
I think they’re trying to let the facts speak for themselves, though if you look at the media reports I have yet to find ANY “news” source that gives any of these facts.
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