[I see my hands]

Hold on, haven't you heard the sanctimonious assholes on the right caution us not to sink to the enemy's level?

[Salamander]

Yes.

We should hold the “moral high ground” right up to the point that we’re utterly crushed underfoot.

I’m for “street rules”.

No holds barred.

[No Mr Nice Guy]

;]

[Viking2002]

'Sink' to their level? Give me the go command and a good set of coordinates, I'll tunnel under 'em and shove a red-hot poker up their asses.

It's all a matter of when that final line is crossed.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920