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No Matter How Much Food You’ve Got Stored, It Will Eventually Run Out in a Full-Blown Collapse
SHTF Plan ^ | 3-1-2012 | Joe Alton, M.D.,aka Dr. Bones

Posted on 03/01/2012 10:29:42 AM PST by blam

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To: citizen
"I live alone and unarmed in a condo. If a “full-blown collapse” of civilization occurs, a lack of food won’t be what kills me. It will be murdering hooligans roving in marauding packs. They would loot my place and kill me or leave me for dead. "

Yes, That could be your fate if you don't do something about it now.

181 posted on 03/01/2012 5:18:32 PM PST by blam
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To: citizen
The One-Hour Meltdown
182 posted on 03/01/2012 5:22:39 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
I think this is true only so far as living “near” the city. Suburban folks near a large city will be victims of the inner dwellers. But if you are 100 miles or more away from those big cities, then I just don't think the urban dwellers get that far.

Small cities have a 20-25 mile danger zone. Medium size I'd say 50 miles. Big cities 100+ miles, but most big cities are surrounded themselves with medium and smaller cities.

Dangerous indeed will be all of San Francisco bay Eastward to Sacramento, Eastern Puget Sound, the Los Angeles basin and beyond, Southern Florida, anywhere from Boston to Richmond Virginia, Northeaster Illinois through Northwest Indiana; all victims. Throw in all the rest of the big cities not touching another and consider the whole lot Post-Apocolyptic Hell.

183 posted on 03/01/2012 5:54:58 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: 556x45
If you have 'stuff' you'll spend your days defending it...

I agree wholeheartedly with your post. All the "survivalists" here yapping about their generators, livestock, stores of food and ammunition and whatnot are going to be among the first to die in a true TEOTWAWKI situation.

It's one thing to brag from your keyboard about how you will sit on your front porch and mow down would-be looters with your automatic rifle. It's quite another to actually do it and think you are going to get away with it. Eventually you are going to need some sleep or you are going to run out of ammo Then you will be overrun by the hordes with their pitchforks and torches and whatever is left of your "stash" will disappear down the throats or be carried off by your killers. And if you leave behind a wife or kids, they will soon be dead or wish they were.

Not a pretty picture but that is the reality. Now don't get me wrong, it's a great idea to be prepared to ride out a short-term disaster such as a hurricane, an earthquake or an extended power outage. I have myself a good supply of flashlights, batteries, firewood, canned goods, bottled water, candles and a generator ready to go - so if I lose power for a week or so, I'm in fairly decent shape. But anybody attempting to ride out the apocalypse by filling their cellars and sheds with years worth of supplies are wasting their time and money.

For when the crap hits the fan and you end up being the only one around with lights on at night and livestock running around the place, people are going to very quickly be beating a path to your door and word will spread around like wildfire that you have stuff worth stealing and it doesn't matter if you have a private army of snipers encircling your place 24/7. The well-stocked compound you spent so much time preparing will eventually get overrun by the hungry and desperate masses, even if they have to climb over a stack of dead bodies to get to you.

So that said, what is the best way to prepare for a TEOTWAWKI event?

Learn as many specialized skills as you can. The more services you can provide to a society forced to start all over again, such as carpentry, general repair, doctoring skills, rudimentary dentistry, etc., the more valuable you will be and the less likely you will go hungry as you will be able to barter these specialized skills for food and/or shelter.

184 posted on 03/01/2012 5:55:34 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 72 days away from outliving Phil Hartman)
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To: driftdiver
Farm implement across the one road in and the road is blocked until you get a tractor big enough to move it.

I have serious doubts the hungry hoards will be hot footing it 2 miles to get to me.

185 posted on 03/01/2012 6:02:21 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

It could very well be the police looking for hoarders.


186 posted on 03/01/2012 6:06:16 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: IncPen; Nailbiter

bfl


187 posted on 03/01/2012 6:11:30 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: SamAdams76
" I have myself a good supply of flashlights, batteries, firewood, canned goods, bottled water, candles and a generator ready to go - so if I lose power for a week or so, I'm in fairly decent shape. But anybody attempting to ride out the apocalypse by filling their cellars and sheds with years worth of supplies are wasting their time and money. "

So, what do you do when you run out of your one week of supplies?

188 posted on 03/01/2012 6:14:25 PM PST by blam
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To: driftdiver

Sheriff’s dept. knows better than try that around here.

Not about to get themselves bloodied up over a sandwich.


189 posted on 03/01/2012 6:17:29 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: blam

Your pretty smart if you prepare as much as me, but you’re crazy if you have more.....

:-/


190 posted on 03/01/2012 6:21:44 PM PST by papertyger
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To: blam

Hopefully I will never have to find out!


191 posted on 03/01/2012 6:26:14 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 72 days away from outliving Phil Hartman)
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To: SamAdams76
Ha!!

The smart FReeper folks aren't going to tell you where, when and how.

192 posted on 03/01/2012 6:28:46 PM PST by Osage Orange (Why do we eat Soylindra Green?)
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To: PowderMonkey
>I>You can try growing your "fruits and veggies" after you've fought off the rabbits, dear

Bunnies and venison? I hope so! [I have that problem with my berries now, but I imagine it would be solved if we needed more meat.]

193 posted on 03/01/2012 7:20:16 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: blam

The young spring poke is a delicacy.


194 posted on 03/01/2012 7:23:50 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: blam

Have used the fish shop meds a few times in the past. They work...

Thanks for the link...stay safe !


195 posted on 03/01/2012 7:26:15 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Osage Orange

Avid bow hunter an a builder of my own archery tackle in the form of recurves an long bows.....

A quiet sustainable form of harvesting meat for the pot.

Osage orange is great bow making material....:o)

But yew knew that....lol !


196 posted on 03/01/2012 7:35:27 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos
"Have used the fish shop meds a few times in the past. They work... "

I've used them for years and have a good stock on hand in the refrigerator out in the shed.

I'm afraid the government will eventually cut our access to this source for antibiotics.

197 posted on 03/01/2012 7:40:43 PM PST by blam
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To: Squantos
We need to talk.........

I've a take down recurve now...and a compound.

BTW, I've some brand new compound bows for sell....

If you know anyone interested...let me know. I will give you the spec's....

198 posted on 03/01/2012 7:44:48 PM PST by Osage Orange (Why do we eat Soylindra Green?)
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To: blam

Grandma was from Alabama and she’d make fried poke when dad was a kid.

I’d never use it in SHTF anyway because it takes too much water to fix. It’d be pigweed or lambsquarters instead.


199 posted on 03/01/2012 7:46:55 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Osage Orange

More in the am Buddy.... Off to bed. Oh early thirty wakeup....:o)

Nite...


200 posted on 03/01/2012 7:49:41 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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