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How Newt Gingrich Now Helps Mitt Romney Win
Guardian (UK) ^ | February 19, 2012 | Harry J Enten

Posted on 02/25/2012 8:57:05 PM PST by Steelfish

How Newt Gingrich Now Helps Mitt Romney Win The arithmetic of Super Tuesday delegate allocation means that Gingrich's presence splits off vital voters from Rick Santorum

Harry J Enten guardian.co.uk, Sunday 19 February 2012

A Romney campaign negative ad ahead of January's Florida primary; Gingrich's presence in the GOP race, bankrolled by Sheldon Adelson, now helps Romney against his main challenger, Rick Santorum.

Billionaire Sheldon Adelson has decided to donate an additional $10m to Newt Gingrich's Super Pac. The move is expected to boost Gingrich in the lead-up to the 6 March "Super Tuesday" primaries. Gingrich has taken a back seat to the Mitt Romney-Rick Santorum showdown in Michigan, and he needs ads on the air if there is any way of overcoming the press's new two-man race narrative.

But Sheldon Adelson has ulterior motives at work. He is not a fan of Rick Santorum, and he understands that boosting Gingrich has the side-effect of helping Mitt Romney.

(snip) Poll upon poll in the last week has indicated that Gingrich supporters are more likely to support Rick Santorum than Mitt Romney in a one-on-one match-up. Consider the state of Arizona, where polling finds Santorum rising, but Romney with a comfortable high single-digit lead. If Gingrich were to exit the race, however, Santorum would pull into a tie with Mitt Romney.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; freeperheadsexplode; gingrich; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newtgingrich; rick4romney; ricksantorum; santorum; santorum4romney; spoiler
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1 posted on 02/25/2012 8:57:07 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

This is stupid, even for you.


2 posted on 02/25/2012 8:58:25 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Since by inference you aren’t stupid, why don’t you read the article and try making an intelligent rebuttal.


3 posted on 02/25/2012 9:00:21 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Adelson has supported Gingrich from the start. Saying that he`s now supporting Gingrich to help Romney is stupid.


4 posted on 02/25/2012 9:04:20 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: Steelfish

I strongly suggest you google ‘Santorum and Leo Gerard’.

Santorum is now in the crosshairs of the international labor unions, who are pulling out all the stops in Pennsylvania and other big labor union states to crush whatever support Rick Santorum has in those states.

By the way, this article you posted from a British rag is nonsense. The word is out that the Democrats are planting this garbage to sow divisions among Republicans.


5 posted on 02/25/2012 9:05:28 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: freemarketsfreeminds

The part about supporting Gingrich to help Romney is unsupported, but if you read the actual article regarding the likely delegate outcomes on Super Tuesday (with detailed analysis of each states voting rules) it’s clear that Gingrich’s main role in the race is to cripple Santorum and help Romney, if if that isn’t the intention.


6 posted on 02/25/2012 9:10:12 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Likely delegate outcomes according to polls. Too bad polls are just snapshots, and can`t be frozen in place. Nobody knows what will happen. I didn`t agree with Newt supporters that Rick should get out (at least I don`t remember calling for Rick to get out, I`ll have to check my history), and I don`t think it`s right to pressure Newt to get out.


7 posted on 02/25/2012 9:24:27 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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For sure, for sure.

We will see polls and editorials DAILY that proclaim Santorum or Gingrich can't beat OBozo, or that ONLY OBomney can beat OBozo.

Please, don't be disheartened by this lamestream BS...cause the OBozo will be beaten - IF he's allowed to run in the end.

8 posted on 02/25/2012 9:27:23 PM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Strategerist
The part about supporting Gingrich to help Romney is unsupported, but if you read the actual article regarding the likely delegate outcomes on Super Tuesday (with detailed analysis of each states voting rules) it’s clear that Gingrich’s main role in the race is to cripple Santorum and help Romney, if if that isn’t the intention.

Total and utter garbage.

The inescapable conclusion that Newt's main role is to help Romney win based on "detailed analysis" based on polls that have swung wildly this Primary season is just plain uninformed.
9 posted on 02/25/2012 9:38:11 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
"it’s clear that Gingrich’s main role in the race is to cripple Santorum and help Romney, if if (sic) that isn’t the intention. "

Total and utter garbage.

Completely.

10 posted on 02/25/2012 9:44:47 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Steelfish
Well for starters, no matter how much the Newt supporters are in denial about it, Newt's big money man gave Newt some more big money for the sole purpose to go after Rick Santorum.

I guess they were giving us a heads up when they warned us " Wait until Rick get's the attacks " ....
Well, well, well, they might have known it all along if anyone were to take a good guess at this.

That would be just a good guess.


WAKE UP NEWT SUPPORTERS ! you have been had, and lied to.


Adelson himself said that his very purpose to give Newt some more money was to go directly after Rick Santorum and to peal away Evangelicals, Christians, support away from Rick to help Mitt Romney.

LOOK WHO'S TRICKING WHO !


Also ? Are the Newt supporters true to their words ?

As in " ANYONE BUT ROMNEY " ?
or is it just a bunch of empty rhetoric ?

The ball is in your court now Newt supporters,
either do what you say and mean it, or it was all empty rhetoric.


Yeah, the Newt supporters latest talking point is that they are being tricked by the Santorum supporters and won't help support Rick in Arizona and Michigan.

Yeah Newt supporters, believe that lie you been told by the campaign.
Remember ? it was Adelson who gave money to Newt to peal away support from Rick Santorum to help Mitt Romney... you have been HAD ! Bamboozled, lied to.

Yeah Newt supporters, go ahead and hand this over to Mitt Romney on Tuesday,
because we already know your words: " ANYONE BUT ROMNEY " was all a lie and empty rhetoric.

Go ahead Newt supporters and let Romney win this Tuesday, because ?
You will be the ones to blame for the Mitt Romney GOP nomination...


11 posted on 02/25/2012 9:56:53 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Strategerist; SoConPubbie; Red Steel; SatinDoll; Lazlo in PA; American Constitutionalist

But rather than calling it “garbage” which is name-calling, why don’t you show where Strategerist is wrong. Indeed, his analysis is spot-on and fair if you examine the delegate rules for the Super Tuesday states. This is a 2-man race by all accounts except for the die-hard Gingrich fans. Gingrich has fallen of Romney’s radar as well as Obama and not even the left wing media are talking about him. Gingrich needs to save himself more humiliation and quit now.

After next Tuesday, the momentum will be with either Romney or Santorum, and even GA may go up in flames for Gingrich. Instead, as the article points out, he is helping Romney by staying in the race and Adelson is using Gingrich to derail Santorum because of his strong social conservative views that the $b Casino mogul abhors. Adelson is acting like a fifth columnist.


12 posted on 02/25/2012 9:58:52 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Sometimes we get better news than our own news from overseas.
At least they have woke up and see what's at stake here.
They can see what is going on here with Adelson's money to go after Rick to help Romney.

But, the Newt supporters are in denial... deny deny deny.
13 posted on 02/25/2012 9:59:15 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Steelfish
" But rather than calling it “garbage” which is name-calling "

Even if this were Sarah Palin saying this, the Newt supporters would be all over it condemning her.

If this same " Euro Rag " were to have some good things to say about Newt they would be all over it too hooting and yelling NEWT ! NEWT ! YEAH !
We see the hypocritical sanctimonious pattern going on here.... people can see right through them.
14 posted on 02/25/2012 10:05:55 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Steelfish

It is along haul until the convention. None of the four are going to quit.

As for “garbage”, that was a referral to a planted news piece the media is using as bait to distract Republicans from the real issue - voting Obama out of office and the issues with which he is weak.

You are more and more beginning to sound like a Democrat plant, trying to drive wedges between folks here at Free Republic.

Newt Gingrich scares the Hell out of the Democrats. And now, using their usual tricks, the Dems are going after Santorum, trying to demoralize conservatives. And you? You’re going along with their game.


15 posted on 02/25/2012 10:09:01 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

There you go again “Democratic plant” when the same thing or worse could be said about you. If you cannot rebut with reason and intelligence then these threads are above your pay grade.


16 posted on 02/25/2012 10:13:07 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

There’s nothing Romney wants more than to have a one-on-one race where he can focus all his negative attacks on one man and also be much more likely to get over 50% in conditional winner-take-all states and 50% of the delegates. If either Newt or Rick dropped out now, Romney’s intrade for the nomination would probably hit 99%.

Georgia is the biggest prize of Super Tuesday in terms of delegates, and Newt is #1 there. So do you agree Rick should drop out to help Newt do better there?

The guy is assuming that in GA, OK and TN that Romney will come in second. If Newt dropped out, that GUARANTEES Romney will. So how would it hurt Romney to guarantee he wins the extra delegates given to the second-place person?

Santorum is 9 delegates in the hole in Ohio due to his ballot screwups, so again he should drop out there since Newt is better positioned.

Vermont is conditional on 50% of the vote, which Romney is more likely to get with less opponents. So both staying in hurts Romney there.

Taxachusetts? Are you serious? Romney is going to win it in a landslide no matter who else is in the race. They won’t even compete there.

The major winner-take-all states happen AFTER March, so that’s when either Newt or Rick ought to drop out to avoid letting Romney win any of those with a mere plurality.


17 posted on 02/25/2012 10:35:15 PM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: Steelfish; Strategerist; SoConPubbie; Red Steel; SatinDoll; Lazlo in PA; ...
Strategerist; SoConPubbie; Red Steel; SatinDoll; Lazlo in PA; American Constitutionalist

Re-read my original post SteelFish.

I quite clearly posted that the so-called "Detailed analysis" was based on nothing more than the current polling data.

Polling data that has swung wildly this whole election season.

Polling data in election seasons past that have also swung wildly, for instance, in 1980, in October, Carter was ahead of Reagan by 13 or 14 points and Yet Carter only ended up with 49 electoral votes and Reagan won with 51 percent of the vote.

Furthermore, Strategerist making this point:

"it’s clear that Gingrich’s main role in the race is to cripple Santorum and help Romney, if if that isn’t the intention. "

With no supporting evidence, and last I checked, Strategerist was not God and does not have the ability to read the minds or hearts of men.

Like I said before, pure and utter garbage!
18 posted on 02/25/2012 10:49:36 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: American Constitutionalist
Even if this were Sarah Palin saying this, the Newt supporters would be all over it condemning her.

If this same " Euro Rag " were to have some good things to say about Newt they would be all over it too hooting and yelling NEWT ! NEWT ! YEAH ! We see the hypocritical sanctimonious pattern going on here.... people can see right through them.


You poor Santorum supporters, you really are picked on aren't you?

I have seen just as bad behavior, if not worse from Santorum supporters.

Your hands are not clean in this matter.
19 posted on 02/25/2012 10:54:06 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: freemarketsfreeminds

I prefer if Paul and Romney get out; then we can have a spirited discussion on the two remaining.


20 posted on 02/25/2012 11:23:19 PM PST by Ingtar ("But it is hard to maintain an aura of invincibility after you have been vinced..." Sowell)
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