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New Bomber Program 'Underway' But Cloaked in Secrecy
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| 2/24/2012
| Colin Clark
Posted on 02/24/2012 9:09:08 PM PST by U-238
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To: Mariner
“Already nobody can stop a B-1B.”
Wow, I looked it up, and apparently we fly 100 of these? I don’t hear much about them. Saw one at an airshow.
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posted on
02/24/2012 9:50:26 PM PST
by
DBrow
To: U-238
I disagree my FRiend. The B-52 has more than paid for itself and can still do things that modern systems cannot.
I can think of nothing more fearful than a B-52 dropping in anger.
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posted on
02/24/2012 9:58:05 PM PST
by
Steve Newton
(And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
To: Steve Newton
By the time the B-52 reasches 2040 the plane would be 100 years old. We need new planes because we have new adversaries(the Chinese) and old ones(Russia) who investing heavily in their militaries. These new bombers would probably to be exoatmospheric and reach their targets within 5-15 minutes.
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posted on
02/24/2012 10:01:31 PM PST
by
U-238
To: Steve Newton
You also have to take in account the ever improving air defense networks that are getting more sophisicated every year.
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posted on
02/24/2012 10:05:35 PM PST
by
U-238
To: Jet Jaguar
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posted on
02/24/2012 10:36:21 PM PST
by
Army Air Corps
(Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
To: U-238
I like the Rods from God idea. No bomber needed. And think it’s a joke people believe we or ‘they’ follow any ‘non-militrazation of space” treaties.
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posted on
02/24/2012 10:43:26 PM PST
by
Norm Lenhart
(Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
To: Norm Lenhart
I like the Rods From the Gods satellite. Its a great idea that never really championed.
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posted on
02/24/2012 10:46:04 PM PST
by
U-238
To: Norm Lenhart
There is not really any “non-militairazation of space treaty”. The Soviet Union broke it the moment the ink dried.The programs just disguised itself into civilian programs
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posted on
02/24/2012 10:49:24 PM PST
by
U-238
To: U-238
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posted on
02/24/2012 10:52:15 PM PST
by
Norm Lenhart
(Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
To: U-238
The tech is 1950s to make it reality. Modern comps could target it to insane precision. The only ‘cost’ is the payload getting a few dozen Tungsten phone poles into orbit.
Must be no profit in it for Defense Contractors.
But it sure would solve the Iran problem in 10 seconds with no fallout.
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posted on
02/24/2012 10:56:51 PM PST
by
Norm Lenhart
(Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
To: U-238
Sounds like something from a Dale Brown novel.
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posted on
02/24/2012 10:58:35 PM PST
by
chemicalman
(The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
To: Norm Lenhart
Sice note I forgot to add from the railgun program:
“Velocitis Eradicum” - Speed destroys.
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posted on
02/24/2012 10:58:51 PM PST
by
Norm Lenhart
(Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
To: chemicalman
“Flight of the Old Dog”. Good Book and computer game.
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posted on
02/24/2012 11:00:32 PM PST
by
U-238
To: U-238
Anybody here remember the B-58 (Hustler) the super sonic bomber that was supposed to release guided missles to where ever ? That concept is still around..Womder if ...kinda makes sence...Particularly used by small countries like Israel.. Where range is an important factor
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posted on
02/24/2012 11:06:39 PM PST
by
mosesdapoet
("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
To: U-238
Its nice to know that some projects are so deep that most presidents are never informed, especially one that will use it against America.
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posted on
02/24/2012 11:07:27 PM PST
by
Eye of Unk
(Liberals need not reply.)
To: U-238
By the time the B-52 reasches 2040 the plane would be 100 years old. I was on the carrier when General Hap 'Doolittle' Schwarzenegger flew off a squadron of B-52s to bomb Toki Rio
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posted on
02/24/2012 11:08:10 PM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
(Prayer has no place in the public schools, just like facts have no place in religion -Sup. Chalmers)
To: mosesdapoet
It can make a difference.It was a fantastic plane.Unlike standard ejection seats of the period, a protective clamshell would enclose the seat and the control stick with an attached oxygen cylinder, allowing the pilot to continue to fly even “turtled up” and ready for immediate egress. If you want a good trivia question ,the B-58 was used in the original motion picture “FailSafe”in 1964.
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posted on
02/24/2012 11:10:21 PM PST
by
U-238
To: U-238
By the time the B-52 reasches 2040 the plane would be 100 years old. We need new planes because we have new adversaries(the Chinese) and old ones(Russia) who investing heavily in their militaries. These new bombers would probably to be exoatmospheric and reach their targets within 5-15 minutes.
I don't think we will have such planes for a long time to come. It takes a lot of energy and money to get them into space, just think, you'd need the equivalent of a system that was used to launch a Gemini capsule using a Titan II missile. Also, when you get into space, the re-entry is rough as well. Basically. you'd have a new version of the Space Shuttle. Bombers need to be able to take off within a few minutes, something like this cannot be ready in that time although I do say it could be used for a first strike perhaps.
Really, when you think about it, airplane performance reached a plateau around 1960, an F-4 is just as fast and can do the same job as an F-22. True, the electronics and stealth have evolved further but again, you run into cost and logistics and IMHO, stealth is way overrated, it can be picked up by continuous wave radar which is very low tech, like the Chain Home system the UK had in WWII. There will be a point that even our adversaries will realize that logistics and costs will come into play as well, you can only afford so many SU-30's.
The B-52 will be around for a long time to come and I'm sure even the TU-95 Bear will be there too.
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posted on
02/24/2012 11:11:26 PM PST
by
Nowhere Man
(Send Obama back to the ghetto, November 6th.)
To: Nowhere Man
It takes 12 hours for the B-52 to reach their targets inside Russia. Do you think with the ever improving air defenses and fighter defenses they can reach their targets?
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posted on
02/24/2012 11:13:42 PM PST
by
U-238
To: U-238
One of his newer books, “Executive Intent”, has the Mjolnir garages in orbit and they release tungsen rods. He has a great series of books.
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posted on
02/24/2012 11:14:03 PM PST
by
chemicalman
(The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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