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Sovereign citizen movement now on FBI’s radar
LA Times ^ | Februarary 23, 2012 | Briane Bennett

Posted on 02/24/2012 12:25:49 PM PST by Haddit

Sovereign citizen movement now on FBI’s radar

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-terror-cop-killers-20120224,0,5474022.story

By Brian Bennett, Washington Bureau February 23, 2012, 4:52 p.m.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: fbi
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1 posted on 02/24/2012 12:25:50 PM PST by Haddit
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To: Haddit

This is nothing new. The feds have had their shorts in a wad over the sovereigns for 20 years, and so have the extreme left including the ADL and the SPLC, and their muslim allies.


3 posted on 02/24/2012 12:31:14 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: Hardraade

Maybe the sovereigns should adopt a Muslim cloak to be able to freely be seditious.


4 posted on 02/24/2012 12:35:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Haddit

The “Republic of Texas” is one of these fringe groups. I’ve had them in my court spouting off about the court having no authority, filing nonsensical motions filled with high-sounding gibberish and just generally making life swell for all the people who have to deal with them.


5 posted on 02/24/2012 12:39:36 PM PST by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: Haddit
So-called sovereign citizens argue that they are not subject to local, state or federal laws, and some refuse to recognize the authority of courts or police.

I'm not very familiar with the 'sovereign citizen' movement, but if this claim is true, then these people do not support the Constitution of the United States of America, the Constitutions of their respective states, or any of the laws of our society, and they are really nothing more than a bunch of narcissistic sociopaths.

IF the claim is true.

6 posted on 02/24/2012 12:39:51 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Haddit

A few days ago an Occupier placed ads in newspapers calling for violence.... I wonder if the FBI even raised an eyebrow?


7 posted on 02/24/2012 12:41:40 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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I have a hard time finding sympathy for the fed gov or even the local police. What I predict will happen is yet more harassment of us ‘average’ citizens. I lay the blame at the feet of the feds due to their long history of interference in every aspect of our lives on a grand scale, not an anti-government group such as these sovereign citizens that are poking the feds in the eyes.


8 posted on 02/24/2012 12:43:03 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: WayneS

That pretty much covers it. They’re often paranoid narcissists - a potentially very dangerous combination. Last time I had a case with one of them, I borrowed a Kevlar vest from a cop buddy and wore it under my shirt. Guy was that worrisome.


9 posted on 02/24/2012 12:44:45 PM PST by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: Haddit

According to the DHS and the Fibbers

Muzzies good and Whitey McCracker-Honkey bad.


10 posted on 02/24/2012 12:50:07 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Haddit
He wants the FBI to change the database to flag known sovereign citizen adherents.

So someone need not flag an individual as a 'terrorist'...just as a sovereign citizen adherent.

Recent changes and language from DHS has anyone with more than two weeks of food stored labeled as a terrorist. Now it won't even take that.

11 posted on 02/24/2012 12:57:04 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do all He commands. Receive all He promises.)
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To: AlmaKing

“I have a hard time finding sympathy for the fed gov or even the local police.”

They foster and create an “us versus them” atmosphere, and then wonder why we agree. I guess it allows them an excuse to get fancier SWAT gear.


12 posted on 02/24/2012 1:28:56 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: GeronL

Occupy, Islamist training camps, Illegal Aliens, Cartel Pot Farms and Homeless camps of heroin and meth users are just fine...they vote (D).


13 posted on 02/24/2012 1:41:32 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: wac3rd

That is one of the things I explained in my last vanity post today.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2850781/posts


14 posted on 02/24/2012 1:48:52 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Haddit
Anyone else noticing the Feds desperately trying to create a domestic boogeyman lately? Lots of 'right wing radical' stories are popping up.

Look for a fabricated link between Iran and the 'domestic threat' when we get hit with the next 'unexpected' attack.

Demonizing the Constitutionalists was popular during the last Rat administration too.

Make no mistake, they long to return to the Janet Reno days of looking for domestic 'terrorists' who don't accept big government tyranny.

This DANGEROUS Sovereign Citizen movement has claimed SIX lives since the year 2000.

I believe that many people are killed every day by illegals, either by drunkenness or outright murdering yet no Fed investigation/interest there, so it seems incongruous that this Sovereign thing could truly be that much concern.

No, it's just a convenient vehicle to prep the sheeple for checkpoints and a general suppression of constitutional rights.

15 posted on 02/24/2012 2:08:55 PM PST by JOAT
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To: Hardraade

If they are such criminals, why aren’t they all in jail already???


16 posted on 02/24/2012 6:48:54 PM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: GeronL
Why should they? They are on the same side.

It is only legitimate gun owners, Conservatives,Chuch goers, believers in the Constitution,Biblr readers and believers, etal.

Eco terrorists, anomal rights terrorists, weathermen bomb planters,and others of the Left are not on their list.

17 posted on 02/24/2012 7:14:06 PM PST by sport
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To: WayneS

The claim is true in some of the cases, real sovereigns are generally very bad news. However, sometimes the left will brand you a “sovereign” for some other reason, like being a tax protester. When the ADL, for example, went after Wesley Snipes for being a “sovereign”, it was mostly that he took tax advice from some people associated (loosely) with the movement. The hate boiling internally in ADL and SPLC was bizarre.


18 posted on 02/24/2012 8:48:58 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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