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Arpaio: I briefed Santorum on birth certificate investigation
CNN ^ | 02/21/12 | Jim Acosta

Posted on 02/21/2012 6:38:28 PM PST by writer33

Phoenix (CNN) – Joe Arpaio, the sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, briefed GOP contender Rick Santorum on his investigation into President Barack Obama's birth certificate, the controversial law enforcement official told reporters Tuesday.

After a speech to a Republican gathering in Phoenix where Santorum appeared earlier in the day, Arpaio explained he wanted to inform the candidate of his investigation "as a matter of fairness in case he wouldn't want me to support him."

Arpaio said he plans to endorse one of the four remaining GOP candidates in the coming weeks. But the sheriff added he would not make his choice known before he announces the findings of his birth certificate probe at a news conference set for March 1st. This endorsement would be his second in the race; in November 2011, he endorsed then-candidate Rick Perry.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arpaio; birther; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; santorum; santorumbriefed
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To: Kansas58
You are not very good at disproving my points.
You don't make points. You make @diatribes.
61 posted on 02/22/2012 9:25:42 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Project much?

You are on the losing side of a silly fight, and all you do is insult those who agree with the superior, majority argument.


62 posted on 02/22/2012 9:26:06 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Santorum has not stated that he supports the “two citizen parent” requirement.
So what. He hasn't stated that he doesn't either, has he? If he has, show it.

Arpaio has not stated taht he supports the “two citizen parent” requirement.
So what. He hasn't stated that he doesn't either, has he? If he has, show it.

I am sure the radical birthers will jump all over both Santorum and Arpaio if either/both of them end up supporting the MAJORITY conservative view: Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at Birth and NOTHING ELSE!

The Farce is weak in you, Aperentice.

63 posted on 02/22/2012 9:31:42 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kansas58; All
Project much?
Nope. I leave that up to you.

@Factitious Disorder by Proxy
Generally speaking, the goal or objective is to assume the “sick role,” and subsequently obtain the benefits that are generally imbued on them as a result.

You are on the losing side of a silly fight, and all you do is insult those who agree with the superior, majority argument.
Thanks for sharing your fallacy.

@Philosophy 103: Introduction to Logic - Argumentum Ad Populum

Argumentum ad Populum (popular appeal or appeal to the majority): The fallacy of attempting to win popular assent to a conclusion by arousing the feeling and enthusiasms of the multitude.

If it's such a "silly" fight them why do you bother arguing against it?

64 posted on 02/22/2012 9:43:41 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Why?
Because you have no “right” to the conservative cause.
Because true conservatives can and do oppose you.
Because if nobody argues with you, some who are new to these arguments might be misled by your nonsense.

You have virtually no support.
Your cause does NOT advanced the Conservative message or cause, at all.

I DO want more research on Obama’s past. I want to know if he applied for college financial aide based on “foreign” status. I want to know more about his radical past.

But? I want to know this stuff so that we can share it with the voters.

The idea that Obama can be removed from office, based on Court hearings, is absurd.

65 posted on 02/22/2012 9:50:00 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Ooops...sorry about that. This is the one you're using.

Project much?

@Attribution

Attribution Bias
When people make an attribution, they are guessing about the causes of events or behaviors. These guesses are often wrong. People have systematic biases, which lead them to make incorrect attributions. These biases include the fundamental attribution error, the self-serving bias, and the just world hypothesis.

66 posted on 02/22/2012 9:51:46 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
The pedantic approach is used by the arrogant to cover for a bad argument.

You are pedantic to the core, you want to prove how smart you are -—

This is the point of your entire existence.

Intellectual Narcissism does not become anyone, and it does not make you correct.

67 posted on 02/22/2012 9:58:26 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Because you have no “right” to the conservative cause.
This is a Constitutional cause, not a conservative cause

Because true conservatives can and do oppose you.
Thanks for sharing your assumption.

Because if nobody argues with you, some who are new to these arguments might be misled by your nonsense.
It would seem that you are the one spreading nonsense, not I.

You have virtually no support.
Reinforcement again? It isn't working any more. Folks are catching on to what's going on.

I DO want more research on Obama’s past. I want to know if he applied for college financial aide based on “foreign” status. I want to know more about his radical past.
Then why don't you go do that instead of "wasting" your time on eligibility threads? Your actions belie your words.
Besides, enough is already known to cause him problems. The rest is immaterial IMO.

The idea that Obama can be removed from office, based on Court hearings, is absurd.
Bless your heart, you don't realize that that well is dry? You're getting nothing but an empty bucket.

68 posted on 02/22/2012 10:02:05 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kansas58
Attribution bias again? Boring!
69 posted on 02/22/2012 10:06:34 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: writer33

Smart of him to get the eligibility stuff out of the way before endorsing. Potentially embarrassing the next president by dragging him through the birther mess against his will is not a smart move.


70 posted on 02/22/2012 12:28:04 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: philman_36

Thank you!


71 posted on 02/22/2012 1:19:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Brown Deer

yes, it would be very very nice...;-)


72 posted on 02/22/2012 1:29:31 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Kansas58

The Constitution says a Senator must be a citizen; it says the President must be a natural born citizen, ie a higher standard. In your estimation what elevates one to the status required for President? Why do you suppose they required a higher standard for the Presidency? Do you believe that Hitler’s illegitimate son, born and raised in the US would meet the higher standard? How about Osama Bin Laden’s or Stalin’s?


73 posted on 02/22/2012 3:25:06 PM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: Kansas58

The idea that Obama can be removed from office, based on Court hearings, is absurd.

Even if it can be shown that he broke the law and is a fraud? Pretty sad statement on our justice system and probably deserved.


74 posted on 02/22/2012 3:30:02 PM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: Josephat

A Senator MIGHT be a Naturalized Citizen.

A President MUST be a Citizen from the moment of birth.

That is the difference.

There are only two forms of Citizenship in the United States:

Natural Born
Naturalized


75 posted on 02/22/2012 3:53:15 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

You didn’t answer the last questions. If Hitler had impregnated a minor US girl and she returned to the US and gave birth and raised the child here, is that child elegible for the Presidency? You don’t really believe that is what the Founders intended, do you?


76 posted on 02/22/2012 4:23:08 PM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: Josephat
The Constitution did not intend to pick our Presidents for us.

At some point, the voters, the Electoral College, and Congress must all make a decision.

The Courts should not overturn that decision.

If voters, today, want to vote against Obama due to this stuff, that is FINE with me -—

But no Court will remove Obama from office after the fact.

Congress determined that Obama was eligible.

Unless outright fraud can be shown, on the part of Obama, Obama will not be removed. Besides, it is CONGRESS which must remove a President, through IMPEACHMENT.

No Court has the power to remove a sitting President.

77 posted on 02/22/2012 4:32:49 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: little jeremiah

My pleasure.


78 posted on 02/22/2012 5:18:37 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kansas58
A President MUST be a Citizen from the moment of birth.
Are all of those "citizens" natural born citizens from the moment of their birth?
79 posted on 02/22/2012 5:33:14 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kansas58
But no Court will remove Obama from office after the fact.

Can a court, or other appropriate State authority, order an ineligible candidate off of a ballot or that they not be placed on a ballot before an election?

80 posted on 02/22/2012 5:38:37 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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