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To: presidio9

http://www.real-science.com/

Several quips here (scroll down and/or next page for more).

http://wattsupwiththat.com/

Links and updates at top.


8 posted on 02/21/2012 5:04:17 PM PST by Puckster
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I have been spending a lot of time over at Lucia's Blackboard as well as WattsUpWithThat the last couple days with this. Today, Anthony posted this thread http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/21/ncse-accepts-gleicks-resignation/ with several very interesting posts that I have synopsized in the following way...

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I have just waded through many comments on the WUWT thread wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/21/ncse-accepts-gleicks-resignation/

I was simply reading until a comment at 11:16 by Stephen Rasey went through a tremendous string of analysis and concluded with, “How does E.C. Scott at NCSE come to that conclusion without the faked document or private potentially defaming discussions (from Gleick)? I think Scott at NCSE just opened itself to Heartland discovery motions.”

INDEED! That caught my attention.

A little later, Richdo @12:00 pm goes through another marvelous string of fact that includes, “Chris Mooney at DeSmogBlog was one of the first (if not the first) to publicise NCSE’s climate education initiative launch, … [but] notes “There Is No Clear “Opponent.” In the evolution fight, there was … Discovery Institute[and other]. In the climate education battle, there is no central clearinghouse organization … pushing global warming denial in schools. … So how can [NCSE] manage climate education conflicts profitably …” “- Now we have Gleick, the newly appointed member of NCSE’s board, (appointed specifically because of their new climate initiatives) at the center of a fraud to create a “clear opponent” and provide a wondefull springboard for NCSE’s climate launch.”

And finally, DirkH says to the original “Joe @ 10:03″, “VERY GOOD! You found the motive. So we KNOW now that -this was not masterplanned to blow up in their faces like it did. -the left/warm media are just winging it as good as they can”

So back to read what Joe actually said at 10:03: “So Gleick, in his hubris, attempted to prime the pump for a battle against Heartland that he intended to wage as a board member at NCSE by releasing a fake document that portrayed Heartland as an anti-science organization. This plan had the ultimate effect of undoing Gleick just when he should have been reaching the zenith of his career and casting him in the nadir of his career instead.

It’s a Gleick Tragedy.”

My own opinion has been greatly affected by these posters and I believe if others who have been mulling over this event, it may greatly affect them, too. If I were Heartland, I would immediately subpoena for all NCSE documents and communications with Gleick and Dessmogblog, since it seems clear that NCSE and Gleick have clear motivation for producing that particular fraudulent document given his intended association with them before the incredibly rapid discovery of the fraud.

I urge people to go read the full posts made by those folks since I edited them down to give the gist of their reasoning.

I really do think these thoughts of how deeply NCSE was involved in this bears specific discussion.

I have a sneakin' suspicion that this fraudulent memo was created for the sole reason to provide NCSE a target, and their new golden boy, Gleick.

11 posted on 02/21/2012 5:14:37 PM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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